So come on then tell us how you would do it differently to what every other club appears to be doing?

Sky money aside how are the crusaders surviving on those gates?

They aren't, the RFL are holding their funds. (it's in an article today somewhere).

Why am i not surprised...

Don't care about Crusaders. Much rather safeguard our own future. That means winning games, making the play-offs and building the stadium.

Do you have a link or is this another thing you heard second or third hand?

Buy some newspapers and you'll see it, simple as if it goes to a vote of owners (which it should) Crusaders won't make next season, apparently Quins won't be around too unless they find a new backer.

I'm not saying it should be done differently you are missing the point. Whilst other clubs put on offers free/reduced or incentives these are generally used when they are playing a team who will bring minimal away support for example Leeds wouldn't use any incentives when they are playing Bradford as they know that there is enough local interest, however when they are playing crusaders quins or dragons they may well uses some incentive to bolster the crowd.

But if a club uses incentives for the majority of games at some point the figures won't add up you need people paying to pay the wages and keep the club solvent. So you could probably say that a truer figure of support would be season ticket holders and I am sure that if Crusaders can maintain a level of success the season ticket holder numbers would also increase.

The point you seem to miss is that we have seen various project teams from the RFL - Paris ST Germain - Gateshead - Sheffield Eagles and within a few years the RFL drop them as the interest isn't there, Gatehead were merged with Hull and Sheffield were merged with Huddersfield and Paris disappeared. So for Crusaders to remain and not suffer the fate of the other clubs they need to keep the interest going and attract new support and sponsorship.

I see the point you're trying to make but without the 'I heard it from my family' side of things there's not much to go on is it?

I am simply stating fact - unless you make money you won't exist simple economics mate.

You are currently receiving a lot of help from the RFL and no thats not from a family member that is from Brain Nobel on the BBC programme on the red button after todays CC game but at some point you have to stand on your own two feet and survive without assistance. Which means getting people to pay full price no discounted tickets no freebies cold hard cash and realistic entry prices

Fine on the economics side of it but you're 'fact' is that a family member told you that the majority of tickets for Crusaders games are freebies, if I believed every post based on hear say I'd never bother leaving the house!

On Forum on BBC after today's game, the representative from the RFL admitted they are "supporting" the Crusaders" - so what does that mean and what about all the other RL clubs that are finding it tough at the moment. The country is going through the worse recession since WorldWar II.All the RFL are doing is forcing the clubs such as Cas Wakie and Salford into financial ruin trying to get a stadium built.

Quote: casfanforlife "On Forum on BBC after today's game, the representative from the RFL admitted they are "supporting" the Crusaders" - so what does that mean and what about all the other RL clubs that are finding it tough at the moment. The country is going through the worse recession since WorldWar II.All the RFL are doing is forcing the clubs such as Cas Wakie and Salford into financial ruin trying to get a stadium built.'" Given that the RFL club support unit was working with the club last year and stated it would be this year why would that be a surprise? www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=16128

Quote: casfanforlife "On Forum on BBC after today's game, the representative from the RFL admitted they are "supporting" the Crusaders" - so what does that mean and what about all the other RL clubs that are finding it tough at the moment. The country is going through the worse recession since WorldWar II.All the RFL are doing is forcing the clubs such as Cas Wakie and Salford into financial ruin trying to get a stadium built.'" Given that the RFL club support unit was working with the club last year and stated it would be this year why would that be a surprise? www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=16128