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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "No, but he's applying the same principles of unfairly punishing the minority for no reason.
Perhaps, with Wakefield being a minority in SL, we should charge them more than other away fans for getting into Wheldon Road?'"
You've lost the plot, go and have a cup of tea, regathering yourself, get a sense of perspective and come back talking sense.
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| Quote: bren2k "Is that really how you see it?!'"
Fa'asavalu played for GB, i believe he scored a try in the red/white and blue....i believe i cheered.
Yep thats how i see it.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "No, but he's applying the same principles of unfairly punishing the minority for no reason.
Perhaps, with Wakefield being a minority in SL, we should charge them more than other away fans for getting into Wheldon Road?'"
Oh dear - I feel a bit worried for you now. Is there someone there you can talk to?
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "You've lost the plot, go and have a cup of tea, regathering yourself, get a sense of perspective and come back talking sense.'"
I'm still waiting for you to explain why my comments were so silly...
Agin, the poster said it was acceptable to penalise a minority. I pointed out instances of when this had happened. What's the problem?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "No, but he's applying the same principles of unfairly punishing the minority for no reason.
Perhaps, with Wakefield being a minority in SL, we should charge them more than other away fans for getting into Wheldon Road?'"
Where as the current rules are punishing the English players who could be playing in his place. You can twist this as much as you want, but the only reason you're supporting Chase playing for England is because he's a Castleford player. Let's say Vince Mellars decides to make himself available for England and as a result keeps out Joe Arundel for arguements sake, I don't believe for a minute that any of you will be coming on here saying "Well done Vince". Rangi Chase is a mercenary. If he has to no loyalty to his country, I can't see him having much for Castleford.
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| Quote: poppys mum "Fa'asavalu played for GB, i believe he scored a try in the red/white and blue....i believe i cheered.
Yep thats how i see it.'"
And just a few short years later he was back in Samoan colours making fools of Tony Smith, you and everyone else who fell for it.
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "And just a few short years later he was back in Samoan colours making fools of Tony Smith, you and everyone else who fell for it.'"
Yep, thats life.
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "And just a few short years later he was back in Samoan colours making fools of Tony Smith, you and everyone else who fell for it.'"
At the time I felt that no English coach would pick a foreigner for national side, and put it down to Smith being an Aussie who was driven by money and not by patriotism. McNamara has no excuse.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Where as the current rules are punishing the English players who could be playing in his place. You can twist this as much as you want, but the only reason you're supporting Chase playing for England is because he's a Castleford player. Let's say Vince Mellars decides to make himself available for England and as a result keeps out Joe Arundel for arguements sake, I don't believe for a minute that any of you will be coming on here saying "Well done Vince". Rangi Chase is a mercenary. If he has to no loyalty to his country, I can't see him having much for Castleford.'"
1. Read the thread. I don't support Chase playing for England. I accept it because the rules say he can.
2. I don't think Chase's loyalty is in doubt, signing a 4-year deal when he could have gone to practically any other team in a year's time.
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| Quote: poppys mum "Yep, thats life.'"
Only if you accept the tissue thin depth of sincerity that accompanies the statements he (& Rangi Chase) made when pledging their undying love for England and the Queen!
More fool you if you did but while people like you accept it there are others that walk away from the international game in despair.
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "Only if you accept the tissue thin depth of sincerity that accompanies the statements he (& Rangi Chase) made when pledging their undying love for England and the Queen!
More fool you if you did but while people like you accept it there are others that walk away from the international game in despair.'"
Aye, shocking isn't it.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "1. Read the thread. I don't support Chase playing for England. I accept it because the rules say he can.
2. I don't think Chase's loyalty is in doubt, signing a 4-year deal when he could have gone to practically any other team in a year's time.'"
No, Chase knows that when he has to re-apply for a visa he has no chance due to his off field behaviour. So he knows his best option is not rock the boat, show stability by staying at Castleford (on a better contract) and apply for citizenship so that when a big club comes calling he won't have to re-apply for the visa. What better way to support this than by representing England? He knows he won't command the same money in the NRL. Even the most biased Castleford fans know this (even if they won't admit it publicly) and are going to make the most of having such a good player at the club for the next few seasons.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "No, Chase knows that when he has to re-apply for a visa he has no chance due to his off field behaviour. So he knows his best option is not rock the boat, show stability by staying at Castleford (on a better contract) and apply for citizenship so that when a big club comes calling he won't have to re-apply for the visa. What better way to support this than by representing England? He knows he won't command the same money in the NRL. Even the most biased Castleford fans know this (even if they won't admit it publicly) and are going to make the most of having such a good player at the club for the next few seasons.'"
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| Quote: Sesquipedalian "Only if you accept the tissue thin depth of sincerity that accompanies the statements he (& Rangi Chase) made when pledging their undying love for England and the Queen!
More fool you if you did but while people like you accept it there are [sizeothers that walk away from the international game in despair.[/size'"
It's sad to say, but unfortunately I'm one of them.
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| Quote: Cecil B "Listening to a number of fans sat around me at the game last night, the majority of the England team aren't international class.
Funnily enough the Loiner fans seemed to think the team should have more Leeds players in and I bet you could say the same for Saints, Wigan and Warrington fans...'"
Personally i think Morley shouldn't have been picked from the off, and i think Atkins should have played instead of Yeaman BUT i'm not sure if Atkins wasn't picked or chose not to.
Myler i would have liked to have seen have a chance, he played brilliantly for the Knights
Bridge no, Harrison no, just forgetting for a moment they played for Ireland so shouldn't be picked anyway they haven't played well enough for selection
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