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| Quote: dboy "No and no.
Cas were offered a ground share and snubbed it, laughing claiming Glasshoughton was the Promised Land.
That ship has sailed...they have made their bed...and will enjoy sleeping in it.
Any future deal will now be heavily weighted in Wakey's favour.
Well done Wright and Fulton!'"
I'm sorry but you are incorrect with this, Cas said they would have talks with the council (and Wakey) as to a shared stadium and Wakey absolutely refused.
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| Wakefield declined to enter the WMDC review offered, choosing to pursue NM on their own.
Wakefield wrote to all potential partners in the district, including Cas and Fev...they declined the offer of a shared tenancy.
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| The only reason that Wakey and Cas keep being suggested as merger candidates is to make life easier for the RFL.
IF we were to merge, it would make the immediate future simpler for other people, not for Cas or Wakefield.
Although Cas are doing it tough at the moment, they bring plenty to SL and people should be trying to help and not keep trying to put the skids under them.
Stay as we are.
With those who run the sport, even if there was a merger, they'd still probably relegate us !
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| I don't see why either side would want to merge.
And in reality there would only be a takeover. Rarely is there a merger of equal status.
So right now it would in my opinion by bad for Cas to merge. Better to go down and fight back then be lost.
Wakefield have been in similar position (and in fact much worse) and I would never have voted for a merger.
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| Did you guys hear what was discussed on Back Chat this week?
It was suggested that maybe a Merger of Wakefield and Castleford would be a better option for 1) Survival and 2) If the Comp is reduced to 10-12 Teams.
I just wanted to get your thoughts on this?
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| I gather you didn't see the thread to merge or not to merge a few threads down then?
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| To be put it as simply as possible: there will be probably one super league from the WF postcode in a couple of years time, playing out of a stadium earmarked for Wakefield and within the Wakefield boundary. Whether or not Cas would want to be a part of that is debatable. Do you remember how well Sheffield and Gateshead did in their mergers?
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| Quote: Wildthing "I gather you didn't see the thread to merge or not to merge a few threads down then?
I'm so sorry, I didn't. Please forgive me
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| Quote: Middleton_Loiner "Did you guys hear what was discussed on Back Chat this week?
It was suggested that maybe a Merger of Wakefield and Castleford would be a better option for 1) Survival and 2) If the Comp is reduced to 10-12 Teams.
I just wanted to get your thoughts on this?'"
Will not happen.
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| Quote: Wildthing "I gather you didn't see the thread to merge or not to merge a few threads down then?
Maybe you could merge the merger threads.....
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| If SL goes to 10 you can forget about Cas Tigers and Wakey. If it goes down to 12 Wakey might make the cut. You can keep SL for me - Cas Tigers need to be playing in Castleford. If I wanted to watch a top team playing outside of Castleford I can go watch Leeds Rhino's can't I.
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| Yes: I also saw Backchat episodes that didn't really provide both sides to Castleford's issues and it was very good at kicking Cas but not pointing out the reason behind some things.
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| If you 3 were to merge, FevTrin Tigers that is, you could really have a superb fan base If the 3 got behind the new club. It happened in Sydney with a few mergers where Eastern Suburbs, Western Suburbs , Balmain, Newtown Jets, Illawarra and others had to lose their identity as well as other partner merged clubs.
If you want to sustain a Super League Club then you may just have to merge too. Of course as some have said - they want their own identity at all costs even if it meant Championship football. But for a hotbed RL area like the Calder Valley that would be such a shame and quite shortsighted, we need a Super League club from the Calder, you are Rugby League people and deserve a successful sustainable trophy winning team again. The area is also a conveyor belt of talent , much of which has to be sold to balance the books. Imagine if you were getting 12k min every week, would you still be selling your top players ??
Normanton United Football Club is almost middle for diddle the 3 towns at about 3.5 to 4 miles to each RL side..
You wouldn't be the first RL League side to share with a football club and I'm sure Normanton United FC would welcome the development of their ground and the growth possibilities it would give them too. It looks perfect.
You may say that the Hull clubs would never merge but in Hull FCs case I'm not sure we have to, we are able to be self sustainable. For our red neighbours in the east their finances are less favourable and with them too, like yourselves, its down to fan base and the ceiling of around 7.5 / 8K that they are limited to.
If anything happened to Rovers it would be a disaster in my opinion, but I know Rovers fans who did watch Super league rugby at the KC when rovers were in the doldrums and I'm sure if the club did fold then over time some (but not all) HKR fans, would come to the KC from East Hull. just like they do with our football team.
If I had the choices of no Super League Rugby in Hull or a merged Club that would be sustainable then I would go for Super League as the product is simply immense.
You should at least think about it if the other option is Championsip or lower for the 3 of you eventually.
The way the 3 towns are growing, in 20 years time you all be joined together anyway as Great Calder. Great Calder Storm now there's a name ???
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| Quote: Uppo58 "If you 3 were to merge, FevTrin Tigers that is, you could really have a superb fan base If the 3 got behind the new club. It happened in Sydney with a few mergers where Eastern Suburbs, Western Suburbs , Balmain, Newtown Jets, Illawarra and others had to lose their identity as well as other partner merged clubs.
If you want to sustain a Super League Club then you may just have to merge too. Of course as some have said - they want their own identity at all costs even if it meant Championship football. But for a hotbed RL area like the Calder Valley that would be such a shame and quite shortsighted, we need a Super League club from the Calder, you are Rugby League people and deserve a successful sustainable trophy winning team again. The area is also a conveyor belt of talent , much of which has to be sold to balance the books. Imagine if you were getting 12k min every week, would you still be selling your top players ??
Normanton United Football Club is almost middle for diddle the 3 towns at about 3.5 to 4 miles to each RL side..
You wouldn't be the first RL League side to share with a football club and I'm sure Normanton United FC would welcome the development of their ground and the growth possibilities it would give them too. It looks perfect.
You may say that the Hull clubs would never merge but in Hull FCs case I'm not sure we have to, we are able to be self sustainable. For our red neighbours in the east their finances are less favourable and with them too, like yourselves, its down to fan base and the ceiling of around 7.5 / 8K that they are limited to.
If anything happened to Rovers it would be a disaster in my opinion, but I know Rovers fans who did watch Super league rugby at the KC when rovers were in the doldrums and I'm sure if the club did fold then over time some (but not all) HKR fans, would come to the KC from East Hull. just like they do with our football team.
If I had the choices of no Super League Rugby in Hull or a merged Club that would be sustainable then I would go for Super League as the product is simply immense.
You should at least think about it if the other option is Championsip or lower for the 3 of you eventually.
The way the 3 towns are growing, in 20 years time you all be joined together anyway as Great Calder. Great Calder Storm now there's a name ???'"
Or maybe cas could merge with say Gateshead, call the new club castleford, and play in castleford.
Or merge with Sheffield , call the new club castleford and play in castleford
Mergers are definitely the way forward
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| Quote: Uppo58 "
Normanton United Football Club is almost middle for diddle the 3 towns at about 3.5 to 4 miles to each RL side..
You wouldn't be the first RL League side to share with a football club and I'm sure Normanton United FC would welcome the development of their ground and the growth possibilities it would give them too. It looks perfect.
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Stay off the internet , you're dangerous
I can see the headlines now... Cas sell Wheldon Road and move to the Kibble
The land is part of a covenant, by the way.
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