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| Quote: Disco "Oh come on... Thornes Park was a superb ruse. Well done...
Yes by WDMC led by that tit Box. They were the ones who suggested we go down the TP route and wasted 2 years where we could have been getting other plans together.
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Yes by WDMC led by that tit Box. They were the ones who suggested we go down the TP route and wasted 2 years where we could have been getting other plans together.'"
If you check the timeline you'll discover that what actually happened was WMDC delayed (for some ambiguous reason) releasing the outcome of the feasibility study until after the Super League franchises had been granted. You may wish to interpret events as some kind of Box led conspiracy, but from the outside any fule can see that the council (who knew what the conclusions of the report were) deliberately held back publication in order to maximise, not minimise, Wakey's chances of retaining their Super League status. I understand it's hard for Wakey fans to swallow, but if Councillor Box had any influence at all then it must surely have been, with hindsight, more likely exercised in helping Wakey rather than hindering them.
Sorry if that explodes your conspiracy theory, but the bottom line is there are plenty of Cas fans - Box included, seemingly - who really don't want Wakey to go to the wall.
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| Quote: Disco "If you check the timeline you'll discover that what actually happened was WMDC delayed (for some ambiguous reason) releasing the outcome of the feasibility study until after the Super League franchises had been granted. You may wish to interpret events as some kind of Box led conspiracy, but from the outside any fule can see that the council (who knew what the conclusions of the report were) deliberately held back publication in order to maximise, not minimise, Wakey's chances of retaining their Super League status. I understand it's hard for Wakey fans to swallow, but if Councillor Box had any influence at all then it must surely have been, with hindsight, more likely exercised in helping Wakey rather than hindering them.
Sorry if that explodes your conspiracy theory, but the bottom line is there are plenty of Cas fans - Box included, seemingly - who really don't want Wakey to go to the wall.'"
It doesn't alter my view one iota. He held back on announcing it, cos after it was his cock up in the first place he did not want to be directly associated with costing us our SL place and it was the least he could do
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| rlHere's a piece in the YEPrl
Quote: "The YEP understands the study would consider the two sites proposed by the clubs at junction 30 and 32 of the M62. '"
If that's what this is based on, I'd be stunned if they didn't go for Glasshoughton. It's the jewel in the WMDC crown, and a premium sporting facility would only make it better
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| They wouldn't want to upset Wakey though.
I can see them going to Newmarket in fairness.
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| They're going to have to upset someone. They have to make a sensible decision based on the facts at hand. More money will be brought into the district from a Glasshoughton development. More new fans would be attracted to teams playing at a Glasshoughton development. Newmarket is an option to keep a club afloat, Glasshoughton is an option to help the region thrive.
Perhaps I've got rose-tinted specs on, but I just don't see the appeal of Newmarket to anyone but the few thousand Wakefield fans trying to save their club. Glasshoughton can be a focal point for the entire district - a stadium in a heart of a cultural and economical goldmine, rather than a stadium in the middle of a soulless industrial estate.
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| Quote: Disco "If you check the timeline you'll discover that what actually happened was WMDC delayed (for some ambiguous reason) releasing the outcome of the feasibility study until after the Super League franchises had been granted. You may wish to interpret events as some kind of Box led conspiracy, but from the outside any fule can see that the council (who knew what the conclusions of the report were) deliberately held back publication in order to maximise, not minimise, Wakey's chances of retaining their Super League status. I understand it's hard for Wakey fans to swallow, but if Councillor Box had any influence at all then it must surely have been, with hindsight, more likely exercised in helping Wakey rather than hindering them.
Sorry if that explodes your conspiracy theory, but the bottom line is there are plenty of Cas fans - Box included, seemingly - who really don't want Wakey to go to the wall.'"
It says a lot about the RFL, when they put so much pressure on a memeber club during a recession that they could force them in going to the wall. A club with a lot of history. The RFL are only interested in looking after tnemselves!
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| Reading the statement from Cas, and i know it's been tough times recently for all, but i can't help but be annoyed that both clubs have dragged their feet so much and made it so that we're both in a position where a shared stadium is possibly our only option. Lots of deadlines are coming up and it's a shame both clubs just didn't have some super dooper business thinking person in charge to get the stadiums built instead of hoping that someone throws money/land/both at them. I don't doubt both clubs have worked hard to get the stadiums sorted and i hate to be too harsh on the individuals concerned, but ffs we should have been chucking up bricks now.
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| Quote: marshman "i can't help but be annoyed that both clubs have dragged their feet so much'"
Totally agree.
Interesting timing of this announcement given the 2 sides play this weekend.
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| The more I hear on the matter, the more I am convinced we have all been subject to a smoke and mirrors show. The way things stand (as I interpret) one club will be going to the wall come the next round of franchises and as much as I love playing Wakey and the banter with fans, I would rather it be us that survived. Neither clubs fans would be willing, imo, to travel to a shared stadium in either of the locations and this is increasingly looking like the final chapter in this sorry saga.
The BoD's of both clubs should hang their heads in shame because their false promises will lead to the expulsion/demise? of one strong SL club.
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| Also, i can't decide which venue is best for either/both clubs. Obviously as a Cas fan i want it to be at Glasshoughton or even better that we both get our own stadiums. But if we do get two stadiums at the current locations it makes me think that we may as well have a joint stadium since they are so close. Newmarket kind of looks better suited to a halfway between point for both clubs, but Glasshoughton just looks the better location for sponsorship and the rest.
Do Wakey fans look at the Newmarket location and see this as being "the perfect spot and it's where our ground should always have been" for your own ground or "the only option we have for our own ground"?
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| It's certainly frustrating that its taken this long, whereas if we'd considered this before we would almost definitely be a lot further down the road with regards to getting a stadium built.
It's probably no surprise that Cas fans feel they're in the best position and Wakey fans think they are but I can only see the feasibility study going one way. I am fairly confident that Glasshoughton will be the one to get the go ahead but until I see some bricks being laid there I'll remain somewhat nervous.
Unfortunately if the ground share becomes a reality, the club who has to travel to the "other ground" will lose a lot of fans immediately and it will only be a matter of time before that club is forced to merge with the other or die IMO. It's a sad state of affairs considering what both clubs have brought, and continue to bring to the game.
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| Quote: Legionited "It's certainly frustrating that its taken this long, whereas if we'd considered this before we would almost definitely be a lot further down the road with regards to getting a stadium built.
It's probably no surprise that Cas fans feel they're in the best position and Wakey fans think they are but I can only see the feasibility study going one way. I am fairly confident that Glasshoughton will be the one to get the go ahead but until I see some bricks being laid there I'll remain somewhat nervous.
Unfortunately if the ground share becomes a reality, the club who has to travel will lose a lot of fans immediately and it will only be a matter of time before that club is forced to merge with the other or die IMO. It's a sad state of affairs considering what both clubs have brought, and continue to bring to the game.'"
On the other hand, it could work in the opposite direction and a lot of neutrals will go down and watch the other games. I know if WTRLFC were at home, theoretically in Glasshoughton, I'd go down and watch them play as I'm a rugby league fan.
However, that's only if it was at Glasshoughton. If it was at Newmarket, who's going to pay Waystone/Cas back for the costs they've already incurred?
There is one logical solution for me - and like many others - that is Glasshoughton.
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