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How many rounds have we played FFS, has anyone actually got any proof of these allegations, i very much doubt it

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Well, I'll be doing the 140 mile round trip to a home game again on Friday. I wont stop going.

As for yesterday. They were a better team and their dubious tactics are working well.

Anyway, my thoughts were that the players who make up the bulk of our squad arent up to it really which is where our problem lies. We simply had too many passengers yesterday to win the game. Too few have an impact.

We missed our injured players for sure but we have about 6 or 7 in the squad who are not SL standard. That is true of most squads to be fair, but my issue, and only concern with TM is how the likes of Watts and Gleadhill are prospering elsewhere and were not nurtured at our club. Thats a major worry.

As for rumours of "turning up drunk" and "trouble down the lane" thats all because we lost. Having been at 3 pro clubs its always the case, and means little to me. Lots happens behind the scenes but it certainly doesnt mean crisis. Our effort yesterday suggests there is no evidence to suggest TM has lost the team.

They just arent good enough to beat teams like that.

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JK has had a drinks ban at wakie for the last couple of years and has not done them any bad. only 1 player took exception to that and was soon told were to go

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Quote: knotlaknight "JK has had a drinks ban at wakie for the last couple of years and has not done them any bad. only 1 player took exception to that and was soon told were to go'"


Have wakefield banned all there players from drinking? a couple of them could have easily got themselves in trouble if thats the case. I dont think they have, the incident with sculthorpe was for drinking on the team bus home as i was told by a wakey fan and involved two players not one.

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Quote: knotlaknight "JK has had a drinks ban at wakie for the last couple of years and has not done them any bad. only 1 player took exception to that and was soon told were to go'"


He must have changed his ways dramatically then coz there was a hell of a drinking culture at Hull during his reign.

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Quote: pyeman "Have wakefield banned all there players from drinking? a couple of them could have easily got themselves in trouble if thats the case. I dont think they have, the incident with sculthorpe was for drinking on the team bus home as i was told by a wakey fan and involved two players not one.'"


I don't think they have, its just about the right time to have a drink and enjoy yourself.

Danny Brough and Scully, both no longer with us.

Anyway sorry for butting in.

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Quote: BIGAL1 "I don't think they have, its just about the right time to have a drink and enjoy yourself.

Danny Brough and Scully, both no longer with us.

Anyway sorry for butting in.'"


No need to apologise mate, thanks for the info.

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Quote: knotlaknight "JK has had a drinks ban at wakie for the last couple of years and has not done them any bad. only 1 player took exception to that and was soon told were to go'"


Complete rubbish

Go up Wakefield after they have had a game. They are out every week. I should know, I've been drinking with them lots of times before, including Bradford players (Langley etc)

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "And there you have the problem. The mentality of our fans are unreal.

We're 11th thats ok, bradford and wire should be above us while the likes of wakefield, hull kr, huddeersfield etc. etc. make big strides at overtaking the big 4. Lets be happy with 11th though
Its not 'metality' its 'reality'. We are a small town club who average 7000ish fans a week not 10000+, and we dont have somebody running the club who is prepared to invest their own personal fortune in paying players wages.

For whatever finacial reasons Cas have reigned in their spending on players wages this season - not being privvy to the state of their accounts or current finances I couldnt speculate why.

However the end result is, as Cecil B has quite rightly pointed out. We performed well last year finishing in the top 8 because of some good performances and also because some of the bigger better teams in the league under performed. It would apear that this will probably not happen again this season, meaning we will probably finish around 9 or 10th.

Still lets not let the facts get in the way of slating TM and making it all his fault. Ask yourself this if TM was fired tomorrow and Jesus was signed to replace him in time for Fridays game, with the players at his disposal and presuming he wouldnt be playing himself, do you think Jesus would do any better?

As I said 'reality' not 'mentality'.

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Jesus could perform miracles, TM cant.
I reckon we'd win every game : )

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Quote: westyorkylad "Its not 'metality' its 'reality'. We are a small town club who average 7000ish fans a week not 10000+, and we dont have somebody running the club who is prepared to invest their own personal fortune in paying players wages.

For whatever finacial reasons Cas have reigned in their spending on players wages this season - not being privvy to the state of their accounts or current finances I couldnt speculate why.

However the end result is, as Cecil B has quite rightly pointed out. We performed well last year finishing in the top 8 because of some good performances and also because some of the bigger better teams in the league under performed. It would apear that this will probably not happen again this season, meaning we will probably finish around 9 or 10th.

Still lets not let the facts get in the way of slating TM and making it all his fault. Ask yourself this if TM was fired tomorrow and Jesus was signed to replace him in time for Fridays game, with the players at his disposal and presuming he wouldnt be playing himself, do you think Jesus would do any better?

As I said 'reality' not 'mentality'.'"


Spot on with every word, except 'metality' icon_wink.gif

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OK so we may have overachieved last season, and it may be because other team were noticeably poorer, but the team is for the most the same as last year yet they still play like they don't know what each other is going to do! Should we not be improving if we play with a settled team?! Was that not the excuse when we finished bottom a couple of seasons ago, that the team had so many new faces that it would take time to gel.
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Quote: westyorkylad "Its not 'metality' its 'reality'. We are a small town club who average 7000ish fans a week not 10000+, and we dont have somebody running the club who is prepared to invest their own personal fortune in paying players wages.

For whatever finacial reasons Cas have reigned in their spending on players wages this season - not being privvy to the state of their accounts or current finances I couldnt speculate why.

However the end result is, as Cecil B has quite rightly pointed out. We performed well last year finishing in the top 8 because of some good performances and also because some of the bigger better teams in the league under performed. It would apear that this will probably not happen again this season, meaning we will probably finish around 9 or 10th.

Still lets not let the facts get in the way of slating TM and making it all his fault. Ask yourself this if TM was fired tomorrow and Jesus was signed to replace him in time for Fridays game, with the players at his disposal and presuming he wouldnt be playing himself, do you think Jesus would do any better?

As I said 'reality' not 'mentality'.'"


Whatever mate, thats the exact mentality i mean. Small minds make us a small club. we're being shown up by the likes of HKR and Wakey face facts.

5 years down the line it'll be ''oh im happy with 8th in NL2'' icon_rolleyes.gif

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same as the fans that mention dave woods as coach should TM get the boot. icon_biggrin.gifRUNK: icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "Whatever mate, thats the exact mentality i mean. Small minds make us a small club. [sizewe're being shown up by the likes of HKR[/size and Wakey face facts.

5 years down the line it'll be ''oh im happy with 8th in NL2''
up to the nackers in debt, no thanks

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