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Quote: Gaslight "Why though? There's at least 4 better props at the club already, he really isn't needed at Leeds unless there's injuries.
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He will still get plenty of game time, especially in the big games!
Hence why he was picked in 4 grand final winning sides and 1 losing one icon_wink.gif

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Bailey will play this season its called squad rotation, the coach will have a starting 17, this will be a team he considers to be his strongest squad and if injuries permitting would probably play in the major games, the beauty of having a decent squad is that a player of bailey's calibre will be called upon and because of the side Leeds have wont really look out of place, now compare that luxury of a decent squad and look at ours and you see why we will ALWAYS be a second fiddle side until there is a change of attitudes at Cas. Like it or not Leeds are the team we have to emulate and pass to be the best team in SL and we are way off the mark at the moment.

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Cheers mate, oh and do have a word with your fellow supporters

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Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "Cheers mate, oh and do have a word with your fellow supporters'"


So because someone has a differing opinion to yours, they are wrong?

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Quote: Fully "So because someone has a differing opinion to yours, they are wrong?'"


I think it's obvious which opinions are in the majority here and it's not his!

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Quote: tigerman1+1 "Bailey will play this season its called squad rotation, the coach will have a starting 17, this will be a team he considers to be his strongest squad and if injuries permitting would probably play in the major games, the beauty of having a decent squad is that a player of bailey's calibre will be called upon and because of the side Leeds have wont really look out of place, now compare that luxury of a decent squad and look at ours and you see why we will ALWAYS be a second fiddle side until there is a change of attitudes at Cas. Like it or not Leeds are the team we have to emulate and pass to be the best team in SL and we are way off the mark at the moment.'"


Like it or not Tigerman I think you need to wake up and smell the roses, the fact is to have a squad of the size and quality of Leeds we need money, this money has to come from either a board/chairman who are prepared to underwrite any debts incurred paying for said squad, or from a dramatically increase in revenue from gate receipts and merchandising. If you look at Leeds attendances and retail turnover that would be around the figures Cas would need to sustain a similar squad. icon_surprised.gif

Now if you are prepared to underwrite any debts the club incurrs putting this new squad together, or alternatively you have a plan to double our fan base I am sure the board would be interested in talking to you, other wise I think you need to have a bit of a reality check. icon_confused.gif

One final point of note would be the new stadium. We recently got full planning permission to extend our buildings at my place of work, I can assure you it is a long drawn out, costly procedure. The planning itself is 5k along with the architects fees, the planning consultants fees, etc etc, so it is a given that the club is going to be coughing up fairly heafty lumps of cash at fairly regular intervals throughout the course of this year. icon_biggrin.gifOH:

As a stand alone buisness all this has to be payed for by the profits that the club has acrued and will make during the year. a046.gif

So basically when you take all this into consideration where does the money come from to go out and sign all these top quality signings? eusa_think.gif

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Quote: westyorkylad "Like it or not Tigerman I think you need to wake up and smell the roses, the fact is to have a squad of the size and quality of Leeds we need money, this money has to come from either a board/chairman who are prepared to underwrite any debts incurred paying for said squad, or from a dramatically increase in revenue from gate receipts and merchandising. If you look at Leeds attendances and retail turnover that would be around the figures Cas would need to sustain a similar squad.

Think you may have taken what i have written in the wrong context, i understand all you have said and im not in anyway saying its wrong or do i disagree, my point was to basically back up that Bailey will get game time at Leeds, I dont like the bloke wouldnt want him at Cas. but Johnnys a legend is right Bailey will play and its because of the squad and how its structured and used, why would Leeds want to Loan him out. this is what was being discussed?
The rest is true! Until we get a change in attitude at the club we will allways be second fiddle, because of the points you have highlighted and probably more is why we may never be at a level like Leeds. the Stadium is a matter of opinion, some think it will be built some not, me i can honestly say i'm not filled with confidence about the time its taken to get where we are, i'm not confident in RW as he has shown nothing to make me confident, he speaks a good plan but doesnt really deliver on that plan......or should i say hasnt yet!!!!. doesnt mean i wont or dont support the club.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: westyorkylad "Like it or not Tigerman I think you need to wake up and smell the roses, the fact is to have a squad of the size and quality of Leeds we need money, this money has to come from either a board/chairman who are prepared to underwrite any debts incurred paying for said squad, or from a dramatically increase in revenue from gate receipts and merchandising. If you look at Leeds attendances and retail turnover that would be around the figures Cas would need to sustain a similar squad.
The worst thing is hetheringtons local club is cas, he played for the academy (or was trialled i cant remember exactley) when cas said thanks but no thanks he decided he hated the club, hasnt had a good word to say about cas since.

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Quote: pyeman "The worst thing is hetheringtons local club is cas, he played for the academy (or was trialled i cant remember exactley) when cas said thanks but no thanks he decided he hated the club, hasnt had a good word to say about cas since.'"


Whether that is true or not, you cant help but admire how shrewd a buisness man he is.

And feel sorry for him for having married Kath, perhaps next to JJB the ugliest person in RL. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Fully "So because someone has a differing opinion to yours, they are wrong?'"

Quote: Fully "I think it's obvious which opinions are in the majority here and it's not his!'"



I'm not saying they are wrong yet!
But if Bailey again gets plenty of game time this season,and doesn't go out on loan as has been suggested on here,then my opinion will be proved to be right and the posters that have contested this view will in fact be wrong!
do you both not agree?
Which side of the fence are you two sitting comfortably on anyway?

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I think with probable injuries Bailey remains a firm member of Leeds' squad. However, just because people think differently does not mean I'd completely disregard what they say, for instance, it is always plausible for such occurences to happen.

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Quote: westyorkylad "Whether that is true or not, you cant help but admire how shrewd a buisness man he is.

And feel sorry for him for having married Kath, perhaps next to JJB the ugliest person in RL.
Bet they would do well in panto as well

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Quote: Fully "just because people think differently does not mean I'd completely disregard what they say, for instance, it is always plausible for such occurences to happen.'"


so which occurences which may happen, do you want to include that would make you want to dissagree with what the posters have said regarding Bailey?
Name them!


Bailey has been injured during most seasons of his contract at the Rhinos,but has still won 4 GF's and lost 1,the fact is that he has been a major player in our squad now for 8 or more seasons,and will be so this season

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Dear me, do I really have to explain myself again. Cas fans said that Bailey MIGHT be available. You came on here all guns blazing arguing the toss and criticising those people for posting those message, which they are perfectly entitled to do so, just like you are entitled to your own opinion. To suggest they should "have a word with themselves" because they hold such an opinion is delusional. My post was merely suggesting that both sides have valid points and as a result it is not impossible that Bailey leave on loan. Whether it happens or not remains to be seen.

Also, the fact you feel the need to keep re-iterating the point that he's been in Grand Finals, etc etc, is irrelevant. Yes, he's been a major part but it is not impossible for players to play a lesser part as they get older. Maybe you should have a word with yourself about where you're posting and how you're posting before coming in arguing the toss.

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