Actually Fully, you might be right here and I have seen some information today that leads me to believe, by admittedly reading between some lines a little, that Opus have seen the mutually beneficial advantage of the current situation and time-frame and indeed they are keen to gain maximum advantage for both Cas Tigers and themselves (and fair play to them!). So Fully, I apologise, I think you are probably correct about the example above (just that one mind! ) and stand corrected. This is looking more like Newmarket everyday, (the overall strategy, not the planning issues, which are very different). This is however a possible banana skin and if things didn't go the way Opus want them to, even though I think they ultimatley will, then you could be back to square one. Although to be fair, you all knew that, just as the Wakey fans do in respect of Newmarket as well.

However, the time-frame situation (because the information is the draft pre-dev/design programme, if you haven't guessed) doesn't change and you are going to struggle to start on GH before (or even at the same time) as Wakey could potentially start on Newmarket and if things go the way Opus are contingency planning for, then it could indeed be years with the potential answer still being a no... even though I don't think it will be! But you knew that too didn't you, if you are honest with yourself?

It just makes me believe evermore strongly that the RFL are gambling with two clubs who will, in all probability, get new grounds if given the next three years of security in SL to deliver their plans!

Why? Can't Wakefield deliver theirs if they are demoted to NL1?

Mr I.A - although a new comer to this forum I have watched it for some considerable time with some interest. Just an observation really but apologising is something that you could do a little better. Always seems a lttle half hearted or mitigated by other facts or information you make sure you include to soften that apology. Like I say it's just an observation and to be fair I could apply that observation to other posters not necessarily on this site. Right, now I've said my peace I'll batter down the hatches now and take cover.

Why do you ask? Can't Castleford deliver theirs if they are demoted to NL1?

Just seemed odd that you implied that both sides need to be in SL to deliver their respective stadiums. So on that basis, if Newmarket can be delivered with Wakefield in the Championship it doesn't matter what iota what division they are in for that aspect?

Could you?

FWIW yes we can. As I imagine you can, as your not paying for yours either.
Opus for you, Yorkcourt for us.

Odd that you questioned me on the fact that I think the best possible chance for both sides is to be in SL to deliver their respective stadiums. So on that basis, if Glasshoughton can be delivered with Castleford in the Championship it doesn't matter what iota what division they are in for that aspect?

Cas have said it will be delivered no matter what division we're in.

Given we've probably got a stronger application than both Wakefield and Salford (IMO) then I would hope that the RFL do not demote us.

However, you seem to be stating everywhere that SL should be expanded to accommodate Wakefield on the basis of their stadium plans. Why, if they can deliver them in the Championship? And more importantly, why is it of importance as to what division Wakey are in for a Leeds fans such as yourself?

It's good for the game.

IA takes an interest because he loves RL, even if it doesn't involve the colours he wears. Pity others can't follow suit.

Succinctly, I'm anti-Wakefield
Wakefield have a better on-field record than Cas over the Super League era
Richard Wright will blame other people if Cas don't get a franchise.

All on this thread. All of which you've acknowledged.

Thanks.

It is good for the game but still doesn't answer my question.

For goodness sake! Check your PM. I'm not arguing this on here.

So have Wakefield, so what is the problem for you both? You fancy making way for Halifax (assuming Wakefield 'have made way' for Widnes) then to make things fairer in three years, new grounds, best side on and off-field between you wins Bradford's franchise?



Well of course, you are half right, you both have a stronger application than Salford but you don't have one thing they have... £20m worth of new stadium and Peels lawyers standing between you and a trip to the high court! You don't owe the RFL £700k either, which is another story!

Still, paper thin between you and Wakey possibly... what happens if the RFL disagree with you... what then?



However, you seem to be stating everywhere that SL should be expanded to accommodate Castleford on the basis of their stadium plans. Why, if they can deliver them in the Championship?

You are making this really easy Fully, I hope that the club didn't get you to write any of their SL application!!!

Are you struggling to get off this mobius strip of argument you have inadvertently created?

On the final point, because I care about this game and these two clubs... I keep telling you this but quite frankly it is like

It is good for the game but still doesn't answer my questions?

I don't have a PM if you have sent one Georgie?