All the blame cannot be attributed to Millward being coach, we have all heard the stories of drinking at X-Scape by various players during Matterson's reign as coach. All this should have stamped out while he was in charge, that was what he was being paid to do, to make us a professional club not a bunch of lager louts. Millward wasn't the coach when Chase and Westerman were suspended and he cannot be held responsible for Richie Owens transgressions at christmas. He also wasn't responsible for Shenton and Westerman leaving, these thing happen but if any player thinks he is bigger than the club then he has my full support to ship him out if doesn't toe the line, they are paid as professionals and it's time they started behaving that way.

I agree Gronk, Basil is about as popular as a french kiss at a family reunion and I did not want him as manager in the first place. I don't like him and morale within the club is shocking. The players have to knuckle down though as they are paid professionals, and role models within the community. I have worked for plenty of managers I didn't like or respect, but professional pride meant I still did my job to the best of my capabilities. Sounds like they played with a bit of pride today though towards the end of the game.

This club is nothing without its fans and they are the one constant in what has been a disappointing season to say the least. I am willing to give Basil the benefit of the doubt for this season as he has inherited most of the squad, but next season when he has more players that he has signed, his team had better start putting in some better performances otherwise I will be at the front of the queue with you calling for his head (not literally!).

It is true - Basil treated Mathers in a disgraceful manner !! He did not give Richie a "chance" & made it clear that he had to go & Richie was not allowed to Train with the first team !!

I can vouch for it. I asked RW face to face in front of many others at a CTSC meeting at the beginning of this year, and RW took about 10 mins to confirm that Mathers basically did not feature in IM's plans. Owen was IM's preferred fullback, and the club did not have need for an additional 'spare' specialist fullback so it was decided that he would be put out on loan. Prior to which Mathers was allowed to take part in fitness training sessions but was excluded from tactical training (wouldn't have missed much there from what we've seen).

Yes. I was there. And can confirm that.

But that's not treating him "badly" at all. At the end of the day, I wouldn't want a player leaving to a rival club to know the inside outs of how I was preparing my side too ahead of the forthcoming season.

Richie was told Owen was going to be first-choice full-back. Wakefield had shown an interest so Millward gave him an option of staying but playing centre/wing effectively or going out on loan.

if you think it happened that politely then more fool you.

That is something we'll both never know. But I would state that just as I can't assume, you cannot assume. Therefore, there's no point arguing it. It's over with.

I am afraid Millward is the main reason for all this unrest. OK players will be leaving not given contracts, but that has always been the case every season, Matterson never caused this amount of hassle. Millward has come here with a very bad reputation for his aggressive behaviour and bad language, that is why he was sacked at St Helens, it is all in the public domain, read it for your selves. He has bad attitude, and I believe he is the main cause for unrest. The sooner he goes the better the club will be. Good ridance I say, he has done absolutlely nothing for the club.

I actually agree with this and whilst some of the players seem to have responded well to Millward's methods, there are clearly those that felt they had an easy ride under Matterson and are resistant to change. They're the ones causing the problems and need to be on their way.

The club wouldn't be able to afford to pay him off anyway IMO, especially with the number of fans that seem to have dropped away this season. Whilst what's happening on the field isn't particularly encouraging we have seen a few sparks of what they can do. It's what's happening off the field which is the greatest concern for me and I suspect many of those who've walked away - I'm simply struggling to see a future for the club beyond 2014 with things as they currently are.

I asked exactly the same question on our forum and got no reply.

It's only been a couple of days, perhaps he's checking his facts!

I got a response on another thread. Can't remember word for word what it was but it was basically supposition from what I recall.