And people are trying to convince themselves that there isn't an abusive element among Cas fans?

I suppose you will be happy then when RL gets no media exposure at all? So no sponsors and therefore no money and clubs get into more financial trouble. Glad the sport doesn't rely on people like you.

But it wasn't an "abusive" element of Cas fans.

It was the Cas fans who dared to sing a song with a swearword in it when the game was live on television.

The fact that he wrote it about Cas and doesn't dare say it about anyone else is the problem. As people have already highlighted, James Graham v Leeds is on example. Where was his similar vilification of the South Stand when they sang songs there? Other clubs similarly do it on a weekly basis.

I would expect this thread to grow and grow throughout the season with accounts of where fans have "abused" or used swearwords in songs.

Funnily enough the only ground where there is no systematic bad language chanting (by the home crowd anyway) is at Gilbert Brutus. There is one particular song aimed at the ref, used probably four or five times each season, along the lines of "Ref you are breaking our b@lls", or if the Ref is particularly bad, we sing the Millaise. All the chanting is to encourage the home team and there is NEVER any chant against the opposing team or supporters.

Having said that are chants are very limited: Catalans, Allez, Allez, Allez, The Santa Espina (a local folk song) and "Ils sont la".

I think that chants against the opposition must be a cultural thing in the UK.

Funny, anyone else remember how the pop end at kr came across on tv ??? The biggest gathering of unwashed foul mouthed inbred scousers known to man. Mind when it's a 'fashionable' club we can gloss over it.

Glass houses !!!!

And yet another example of the abusive element among Cas fans! I think you'd be better suited at football with that attitude.

Correct, cas fans are the only fans to throw tounge in cheek comments in all of rugby league. We should all take the thousands of pounds we put into the game and take the money to another sport.

You want a job with the rfl in marketing ???

The point is he does hear other fans swearing at matches but doesn't comment on it, he never misses a chance to have a go at cas,he doesn't have a good word to say about us.
If a broadsheet journalist was using the national media to try to damage the reputation of saints due to personal agenda would you be so supportive of him?

Because he isnt targetting your team or his beloved loiners every time someone swears, you think he is ok. The man has an agenda against Castleford, and if you read his ''work'' you will see he has a pop at cas even if we are not playing in the game he is reporting on. Lazy journalist and when he tries , his ''work'' is infantile.

all in all , Andy Wilson is a waste of time.

The terraces have always been places where you learn your bad language. It's not fitting with a family game, but equally I expect to hear it, and I don't think it's any different than thirty years ago. In fact, thirty years ago, opposing fans were more interested in knocking ten bells out of each other. Unless Cas fans were singing something particularly offensive, such as racist or homophobic, it seems a bit rough to single them out, as due to the Gareth Thomas incident, it suggests a problem that isn't really any different to any other club.

Interesting letter in this weeks League Express mailbag commenting on aggressive and abusive chanting by Salford fans at their recent game at the new Saints ground. Says that some fans were ejected as a result.

Wonder if Mr Wilson saw fit to report on that.....

I wonder if this so called journalist mentioned this in his column ? viewtopic.php?f=33&t=520896 or did it get past him cos theres no way the clown can pin it on Cas

I wonder if this so called journalist mentioned this in his column ? viewtopic.php?f=33&t=520896 or did it get past him cos theres no way the clown can pin it on Cas

I am strongly feeling that all clubs have a smilar issue and perhaps it is the silent majority that are to blame, maybe I hear it, do nothing and as such I am part of the problem???

Didn't a very clever person once say that for evil to triumph it only takes good people to do nothing? just saying, not sure what my point is, but it would seem based on my own investigation to be Rugby League wide?

, the sheer hypocrisy of Cas fans is unbelievable. Don't you realise how thick a lot of you sound when for the umpteenth time on this topic you're banging on about Leeds. You complain about Andy Wilson for singling your team out and then do exactly the same thing towards Leeds when there are 13 other teams in Superleague. It's nice that you think about us so much we are included in every topic but seriously........have you ever thought how sadly obsessed you are about the Champs ?

I'm sure Sir Kevin Sinfield and the rest of lads waxing lyrical about how our support helped them on their way to being champions also had the steam coming out of your ears. My money and vocal support alongside 15,000 others certainly won't have hindered Leeds throughout the season. If Cas fans supported their team as well as leeds fans support theirs they may have a more favourable chance of achieving something. Some cas fans unfortunately spend too much time and effort chanting vitriol at opposition supporters rather than helping their team, Andy wilson is just another person that's picked up on it.