And there in lies the truth of the supporters that are good travellers and those that are not.

We at Hul K.R NEVER let the ground, stand, food, hospitality come into the reckoning, we are there to support Hull K.R and if that be from a cr@p hole of a stand like at Saints, Cas or Wakey the so be it, the price too is totally irrelevant, because if its twenty at say... Wigan and twenty two at Wakey thats not important enough to have us miss our team.

Ask yourself a question, if the importance you place on facilities is as pressing as you are making out, how the hell do you go to home games?

We have had two and a half yean the S.L and have improved our ground beyond belief, what was the last thing your club did to improve your place? for home or away supporters?

I'm sure you speak on behalf of all of your 100'000 supporters who never miss a game.



The difference is at our ground, it's got atmosphere, it's not segregated and the fans can actually see the match from wherever they stand.



You've obviously not done enough if it's turning people away. And we've got plans for a new stadium. What about you?

We have never said we want a new ground, simply upgrade what we have, though im sure youwhite elephant will be talked about for many more years.

Okay, i'm going to try and reply to that. Learn how to use quotes.



Obviously you've not heard of the Hull KR calculator joke then?



And that is my point. Money is tight for many people at the moment and they're having to pick and choose the games they go to. Why spend money to sit in a stand where you're far away from the game with a limited view, when you can spend the same and be close to the action? To say this, "And there in lies the truth of the supporters that are good travellers and those that are not." is very harsh.



Well what have you upgraded for the away fans if people are complaining about the away end?

Not going to get Piss wet through and spending 20 pound again i said last time i went till they get that stand sorted i will not be going.

I'm sure the Leeds fans at the open run down end of your ground loved gettingvsoaked on Friday.

But because our ground isn't segregated they had the option to move undercover. Which the large percentage of them did.

TBH the price would probably have kept me away anyway (I've not got a spare £40 this close to pay day, never mind more for petrol, food, drinks etc). But the overriding problem for me is Friday f**king night...

I'm working on the assumption that clubs who schedule games for Friday nights simply don't want away supporters to attend.

They're Leeds fans though.. f**k 'em!

not our fault, it was scheduled on a friday due to hull city v man utd being on sunday contractually for sky. Our local police authority will not allow 2 large events in the city on the same day probably due to them having to pay out overtime!

The game was originally scheduled for Sunday.

I don't really give a stuff who's fault it is mate, I'm just introducing a new variable to the debate (other than price and golf stands). Just for info though, what's up with Saturday?

ATEOTD, a club's perfectly entitled to stage a game whenever it sees fit (in consultation with relevant authorities, of course). But away fans are also perfectly entitled to say "balls to that" when considering the prospect of finishing work, having to run around like a blue-ar*ed fly, wolf the tea down, get changed, get in the car, get on the motorway and still not be guaranteed to make it for kick off.

It's a no brainer for me - I live so far away I couldn't make it if even I had a Eurofighter jet - but pretty much anywhere to East Hull is a big enough bind when you've only just finished work. Friday nights are for chilling out and shaking off the working week, not for tear-ar*ing around all over the place.