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What's the acronym for " Our backup plan is we are going to renovate our current ground that we don't even own?"

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Quote: Therailwayendisuponus. "What's the acronym for " Our backup plan is we are going to renovate our current ground that we don't even own?"'"

Whats Cas' back-up plan because you aren't going to be playing at Glasshoughton in this round of franchises.

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Quote: sixtogo "Whats Cas' back-up plan because you aren't going to be playing at Glasshoughton in this round of franchises.'"


No we're not - that would imply being there before the end of this season. icon_stupid.gif

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Ok, my bad. You won't be playing at GH in the NEXT round of franchises. Maybe the last year if your very lucky but I promise you, the whole planning saga will drag on and on.

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Quote: sixtogo "Ok, my bad. You won't be playing at GH in the NEXT round of franchises. Maybe the last year if your very lucky but I promise you, the whole planning saga will drag on and on.'"


If we dont get a stadium in the next 3 years then the 2015 franchise wont be given to us, simple as. Imo
Infact i still feel very nervous about this franchise.

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Quote: sixtogo "Ok, my bad. You won't be playing at GH in the NEXT round of franchises. Maybe the last year if your very lucky but I promise you, the whole planning saga will drag on and on.'"

Well the official line from the club is 2013 and regardless of your 'promise', you don't offer any kind of evidence to back it up. Would you, perhaps, be a Wakefield fan? :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: mrpurfect "How can the council plan for a housing development on the Cas ground if that doesn't release the capital needed for Cas to go to Glasshoughton?!?!?
It's a none starter.
Other retail and leisure developments would have to be built around a tatty sports stadium with the obvious parking problems on match days.'"


Good point but this might put it in a different light and answer your question! Before the global financial crisis then Ben Bailey had a rumoured £6m + option on WR. That was almost enough, it would seem, to allow Cas to move to GH with some support from the £2m from WMDC, £1m from Waystone (spent already) etc. Great!

Now the land is only worth half of that because housing land prices are in the toilet, however, commercial land prices, especially for retail, remain good, hence the switch to Tesco. Cas are the ones in a rush and not (on SPA N9) WMDC! The council have planned in the LDF for 2525 houses to be built in N9 by 2022, only 226 of which are planned for prior to 2016/17, the other 2199 are to built from 2016/17 onwards! On the WR site, the council have planned for 105 houses, of which 21 are planned by 2016/17 and the other 84 after. Now, of course that does look odd why only 21, if Ben Bailey had still been able to buy the site they would have built all 105 houses quicker than that.. yes, but what they do is split the requirement down to all the sites in N9 to represent the overall statistical position that the N9 site has to provide prior to 2016/17. So, if another site goes and provides more house than required, this and other sites don't have to provide them. So, the answer is that the council don't really have a need for this site to be released prior to 2017 for housing. By which time housing land values should have risen sufficiently again and Cas would get a better return on the sale.

So, that is how they can plan for housing... the don't need it happen, for the plan, for another 5 years!

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Bonzo "Well the official line from the club is 2013 and regardless of your 'promise', you don't offer any kind of evidence to back it up. Would you, perhaps, be a Wakefield fan?
Despite what the 'official line' is from the club, the best both Cas and Wakey can reasonably expect is to be in new grounds in the start of 2014. They could both possibly finish towards to the middle/back-end of the 2013 season, so maybe if one or both were looking good for a play-off spot, that might be a good time to move in early maybe? Otherwise, I don't see the point of getting in a few months earlier.

I will give you an evidential path shall I! Despite what the clubs official line is, is differs from the proposed time-frame given to the various consultants by Opus is! Opus have to them to work to planning being submitted in October 2011 and they are going to push for a decision by February/March 2012 at the earliest! I think that is ambitious but lets say they get there. I think they would look to be starting on site at GH (not WR) within 2/3 months of planning being granted (despite this, starting as soon as permission is granted, you won't get anyone on site in less than a 12 week lead-in) . So that sees them on site by mid-summer 2012, with a 50+ week programme that see them finishing a year later. So, yes 2013, but half way through it at best. So, might be worth moving in before the play-off's but if not, better starting a new season at a new home?

Now, of course, this assumes that everything goes to plan! Interestingly, the time-frame issued to the Opus team is flagging up the possibility of an appeal.... or, you guessed it a PI! They have said six months for this, which again is slightly ambitious but possible.

Does that stack-up do you think?

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Apart from the fact that detailed planning application is due for August 2011.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Hatfield tiger "Apart from the fact that detailed planning application is due for August 2011.'"


Quote: Hatfield tiger "Despite what the clubs official line is, is differs from the proposed time-frame given to the various consultants by Opus! Opus have asked them to work to planning being submitted in October 2011 and they are going to push for a decision by February/March 2012.'"


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Simply quoting publically available information rather than saying "he said - she said" or divulging information from a source that other people cant chalenge.

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I do wish IA would jog on, like a broken record.


I don't think I've ever read a rugby related post by him.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Hatfield tiger "Simply quoting publically available information rather than saying "he said - she said" or divulging information from a source that other people cant chalenge.'"


I am simply posting information that has been given to me from a credible source. The Opus time scale sent to the consultants working on the scheme says October, sorry!

I might even have a draft site proposal plan... but because I can't send it you, you can't verify that either!

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Despite what the 'official line' is from the club, the best both Cas and Wakey can reasonably expect is to be in new grounds in the start of 2014. They could both possibly finish towards to the middle/back-end of the 2013 season, so maybe if one or both were looking good for a play-off spot, that might be a good time to move in early maybe? Otherwise, I don't see the point of getting in a few months earlier.

I will give you an evidential path shall I! Despite what the clubs official line is, is differs from the proposed time-frame given to the various consultants by Opus is! Opus have to them to work to planning being submitted in October 2011 and they are going to push for a decision by February/March 2012 at the earliest! I think that is ambitious but lets say they get there. I think they would look to be starting on site at GH (not WR) within 2/3 months of planning being granted (despite this, starting as soon as permission is granted, you won't get anyone on site in less than a 12 week lead-in) . So that sees them on site by mid-summer 2012, with a 50+ week programme that see them finishing a year later. So, yes 2013, but half way through it at best. So, might be worth moving in before the play-off's but if not, better starting a new season at a new home?

Now, of course, this assumes that everything goes to plan! Interestingly, the time-frame issued to the Opus team is flagging up the possibility of an appeal.... or, you guessed it a PI! They have said six months for this, which again is slightly ambitious but possible.

Does that stack-up do you think?'"


You keep talking as if we all believe everything you have to say, you have told us some tale which just happens to suit your agenda, you have not provided any evidence about what took place in this meeting.

Now go on give us some long winded reply about how you want cas to have a stadium just as much as wakey, then go back to the wakey board and tell them all how everything is going well for them and that all the best possible timescales will be achieved for them (like you told them they wouldn't go to PI) and then come back on here and tell us everything will go wrong for us and say we should be campaigning hard to keep wakefield in sl (strange you dont seem to be encouraging them to support castlefords franchise bid like you keep telling us we should do for them).

If if it is a choice between listening to the club or listening to you i think i will listen to the club thanks.

If it were upto me we would we would both be in sl but it is going to come down one of us going down and nothing short of the welsh going bust is going to change that.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I am simply posting information that has been given to me from a credible source. The Opus time scale sent to the consultants working on the scheme says October, sorry!

I might even have a draft site proposal plan... but because I can't send it you, you can't verify that either!'"



and you might have 7 legs and 23 eyes.

If your going to say you know better than people who are actually involved in this prove it or as has been said jog on.

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