Dale was in my year at school, and our rugby team probably wouldnt have won a game if he wasnt in the squad. Not saying that King's had a rubbish team, but Fergy just stood head n shoulders above the other players.

Hope he can keep improving and become a great player along with Joe, I think things are looking great for the future England squad, with the likes of Fergy, westerman, owen, shenny, ferres, bibb etc

It sure works, we snapped up Broughy to cover for Rooney - touche

I'd chuck Pitts and George in there if we are making a joint bid

Kings was out-and-out kick and clap when I went there.

Just thought I'd stir the pot again

Ferguson against HKR scored a try (two the week before), made a try and managed 63 tackles during the match. This kid has got the X FACTOR as you put it even Simon Cowell wouldn't argue that.

Maybe you need to accept that there may well be two golden balls on the block and Fergy may well keep Joey on his toes. Boy I feel vindicated...and my next tip for the top is

The irony is that you don't get the irony.

I never said Westerman was up to the ludicrous hype on here or through the game in general. Like Fergy that is yet to be seen.

Golden balls is a derogatory term aimed at over hyped youngsters in general by the way. I'm clearly pointing out how over hyped Westerman was and still is yet Ferguson wasn't and still isn't. This despite the fact that both have similar honours and now one is fit he is matching the other play for play. I'm just pointing out the stats to Mr Detor who claims one has the X Factor and the other doesn't to which I disagree.

I'm doing my own one man hype job on the theory that if you say it often enough people will believe it, something Cas and their fans are past masters.

Anyway I wouldn't worry Westy is yesterdays news, Tom Briscoe and the young lad at Wigan who's name escapes me (but sadly not for long I suspect) are the new must have kids.

Well you do have a lot of credibility and I'm sure people will respond positively to your drum banging on behalf of Dale's abilities and potential.

Cas fans are pretty vociferous but I'm not sure they are influential enough to make him captain of England schoolboys, ensure he gets the NL1 young player of they year award, Super League young player of the year award, push his case for inclusion in the world cup training squad in his first season in Super League, ensure his playing statistics for 2008 were as good as many seasoned SL players with international honours and put words of praise in to the mouths of respected figures in the game like Phil Clarke, John Kear and Tony Smith as well as ubiquitous fans from clubs he's competed against and shown his obvious ability.

The fact is you're more obsessed and concerned about Westerman that the majority of Cas fans are, personally I'm more excited about 18yo Richard Owen, the lad is still growing and learning, but showing immense potential and ability.

If you have to explain that, the irony wasn't very good!