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| Quote Fully="Fully"Castleford Tigers is a business, ergo commercial. I wasn't referring to the 'land classification' as such.'"
Land classification may be the least of your troubles if you read the above.
All things will be worked out in time, WR will be developed and you will move to J32. I believe that 100%, I just think there could be some serious problems along the way.
Wow this is sounding spooky! Maybe it's easier to ignore negatives and focus on positives when it's your own club, as well as it being much easier to be objective and critical in your thinking when it doesn't involve your club.
All I'm saying is (potentially) you could have just a big a fight on as us with NM.
Even the most objective of CT fans must be able to admit the race for a stadium is still WIDE open.
All the best mate.
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| I didn't realise it was a race as such?
I thought it was the media making everything out to be about stadia. As far as I'm concerned the licensing agenda is about a number of factors and we win hands down on the majority of them.
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| - I have reports to finish so this will be my last post-
Put it this way in all other areas we BOTH beat Salford hands down- whats the one thing they have neither of us do?- whats the one thing that could take another 3 years to finish for both of us?
A stadium. Are Salford in the running anymore? Not since they started building.
I agree the media have over focused on this particular area of development, but it carries far more weight than most (if not all) other areas of development. I just hope AG and SP have something special lined up they've purposely kept quiet.
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| Who says it carries more weight?
SP? As far as I knew Steve Parkin had nothing to do with Wakefield as of this moment in time.
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| Right - let's get things straight - FACTS
At the moment The Ground is [unot[/u classified as anything, it is "White Land", and is covered by the UDP which is the present planning document.
The draft LDF plans (as quoted by Gary Price Sandal Wild Cat fan club) from 2008 proposed that WR was allocated as housing.
After consultations the present (as of now), proposed Site Specific Proposals Document has rejected WR (and other sites in the riverside area) as Housing allocation and incorporated WR and the others into the Special Policy Area N9 Castleford Riverside, which includes housing, but not on any specific part of the whole site.
Cas Tigers could put in a Planning Application now for whatever they want and it would have to be appraised through the planning system taking into account the UDP, not the proposed LDP neither of which specifically classify WR for housing only.
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| So SWC. SP?
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| Too many TLAs for me.
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| Quote bigalf="bigalf"Right - let's get things straight - FACTS
After consultations the present (as of now), proposed Site Specific Proposals Document has rejected WR (and other sites in the riverside area) as Housing allocation and incorporated WR and the others into the Special Policy Area N9 Castleford Riverside, which includes housing, but not on any specific part of the whole site.'"
Sorry to do this to you mate... but you are wrong!
Site N101 - Castleford Tigers Ground is designated as providing 105 houses within the Site Specific Proposals Submission. You are looking in the wrong place now! Because this area falls within SPA N9 the housing sites within this area are no longer listed seperatley like the other hosuing sites within the LDF! [i"Alongside housing allocations, some special policy areas also contribute towards housing delivery and these are shown in the tables below. Special policy areas are capable of accommodating a range of different land uses and not just housing, but where areas within them will contribute towards housing delivery this information is included in the tables. "[/i
If you don't believe me, the table is here - [urlhttp://consult.wakefield.gov.uk/portal/spatial_policy/ssp_sub/ssp_sub/sspdpd_sub?pointId=1290013133577#section-1290013133577[/url
Sorry!
Quote bigalf="bigalf"Cas Tigers could put in a Planning Application now for whatever they want and it would have to be appraised through the planning system taking into account the UDP, not the proposed LDP neither of which specifically classify WR for housing only.'"
Yes, true but also you forget that the LDF core strategy is in force so it is not just a simple matter of looking at the old UDP anymore. Plus this document is now 3 years in the making and just suddenly turning a blind eye to it would be foolish because Morrison's and Asda's planning lawyers would be all over this like a rash. Not insurmountable, especially in an SPA, but this is yet another reason that this will take time to reach a conclusion! I do think this is one of the reasons they want to get this moving sooner or later. I understand that they are worried that they planning inspector will not call them to appear, now that in the technical consultation they have changed their mind (Castleford Tigers and Ben Bailey pushed for this to be designated as housing since the start of the LDF process) and that could be a problem. The document now has to go forward to the planning inspector showing WR as housing and that is unlikely to be changed, IMO, by the planning inspector without bloody good reasons for doing so... and no, funding a new stadium is not, in his eyes, a good enough reason I suspect!
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Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo"Sorry to do this to you mate... but you are wrong!
Site N101 - Castleford Tigers Ground is designated as providing 105 houses within the Site Specific Proposals Submission. You are looking in the wrong place now! Because this area falls within SPA N9 the housing sites within this area are no longer listed seperatley like the other hosuing sites within the LDF! [i"Alongside housing allocations, some special policy areas also contribute towards housing delivery and these are shown in the tables below. Special policy areas are capable of accommodating a range of different land uses and not just housing, but where areas within them will contribute towards housing delivery this information is included in the tables. "[/i
If you don't believe me, the table is here - [urlhttp://consult.wakefield.gov.uk/portal/spatial_policy/ssp_sub/ssp_sub/sspdpd_sub?pointId=1290013133577#section-1290013133577[/url
Sorry!
Yes, true but also you forget that the LDF core strategy is in force so it is not just a simple matter of looking at the old UDP anymore. Plus this document is now 3 years in the making and just suddenly turning a blind eye to it would be foolish because Morrison's and Asda's planning lawyers would be all over this like a rash. Not insurmountable, especially in an SPA, but this is yet another reason that this will take time to reach a conclusion! I do think this is one of the reasons they want to get this moving sooner or later. I understand that they are worried that they planning inspector will not call them to appear, now that in the technical consultation they have changed their mind (Castleford Tigers and Ben Bailey pushed for this to be designated as housing since the start of the LDF process) and that could be a problem. The document now has to go forward to the planning inspector showing WR as housing and that is unlikely to be changed, IMO, by the planning inspector without bloody good reasons for doing so... and no, funding a new stadium is not, in his eyes, a good enough reason I suspect!'"
Sorry I_A but You are wrong.
I know where the table is thanks, and that table is for [uinformation only [/uto show all the available housing supply allocation within the whole of SPA N9, not specific sites such as N101 (WR). The Spatial Policy dept think it may be misleading to have included it (Their words, not mine).
The Cas Tigers Ground [uhas[/u been rejected for specific housing allocation- Page 33 of Technical Paper Volume 2 Rejected Land Allocations.
Have a word with the Spatial Policy team to confirm this if you need, as I have.
I don't see a Red Line around the site on here: (Page 3 Northern Area)
www.wakefield.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyre ... ls_Map.pdf
Do you?
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Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo"Sorry to do this to you mate... but you are wrong!
Site N101 - Castleford Tigers Ground is designated as providing 105 houses within the Site Specific Proposals Submission. You are looking in the wrong place now! Because this area falls within SPA N9 the housing sites within this area are no longer listed seperatley like the other hosuing sites within the LDF! [i"Alongside housing allocations, some special policy areas also contribute towards housing delivery and these are shown in the tables below. Special policy areas are capable of accommodating a range of different land uses and not just housing, but where areas within them will contribute towards housing delivery this information is included in the tables. "[/i
If you don't believe me, the table is here - [urlhttp://consult.wakefield.gov.uk/portal/spatial_policy/ssp_sub/ssp_sub/sspdpd_sub?pointId=1290013133577#section-1290013133577[/url
Sorry!
Yes, true but also you forget that the LDF core strategy is in force so it is not just a simple matter of looking at the old UDP anymore. Plus this document is now 3 years in the making and just suddenly turning a blind eye to it would be foolish because Morrison's and Asda's planning lawyers would be all over this like a rash. Not insurmountable, especially in an SPA, but this is yet another reason that this will take time to reach a conclusion! I do think this is one of the reasons they want to get this moving sooner or later. I understand that they are worried that they planning inspector will not call them to appear, now that in the technical consultation they have changed their mind (Castleford Tigers and Ben Bailey pushed for this to be designated as housing since the start of the LDF process) and that could be a problem. The document now has to go forward to the planning inspector showing WR as housing and that is unlikely to be changed, IMO, by the planning inspector without bloody good reasons for doing so... and no, funding a new stadium is not, in his eyes, a good enough reason I suspect!'"
Sorry I_A but You are wrong.
I know where the table is thanks, and that table is for [uinformation only [/uto show all the available housing supply allocation within the whole of SPA N9, not specific sites such as N101 (WR). The Spatial Policy dept think it may be misleading to have included it (Their words, not mine).
The Cas Tigers Ground [uhas[/u been rejected for specific housing allocation- Page 33 of Technical Paper Volume 2 Rejected Land Allocations.
Have a word with the Spatial Policy team to confirm this if you need, as I have.
I don't see a Red Line around the site on here: (Page 3 Northern Area)
www.wakefield.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyre ... ls_Map.pdf
Do you?
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