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| Quote: mdean "As I said, I have to believe that; the alternative is that everyone involved with Ian's appointment and now his ongoing employment is a moron and statistically that is unlikely.'"
That's the alternative and not they made an honest mistake and now they can't afford to pay him off?
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| Quote: mdean "I have to believe that in the long term Basil is a good appointment, where he has had TIME he has performed.
I think clubs are far too quick to pull the trigger, to the detriment of longer term planning. I am hesitent to mention Scumchester United, but they were widely accepted to be on the brink of sacking their bloke, but they kept their powder dry and let him do what they appointed him to do, build a playing staff for tomorrow and onwards, not just improve the on field today.
You either back a manager to execute a plan or you don't but you can't let your enthusiasm wane in the infancy.
As I said, I have to believe that; the alternative is that everyone involved with Ian's appointment and now his ongoing employment is a moron and statistically that is unlikely.'"
I have been thinking along those lines and am loathe to revise my original opinion that IM was a good fit to Cas Tigers but his record suggests the chemistry between him and his club tends to be either glorious or disastrous and you might reasonably conclude from his tenure thus far that the latter is more likely to apply with us. It's a 'dont know' from me at the moment but edging towards 'go'.
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| I think you would be better giving him another year; yes it's been a woeful season but any coach needs time and, dispite some failures, Millward does have a good track record. In any case, who would you replace him with? IMHO Kear looks like a good bet - and I am sure he would be good for you - but even he would need time to make his mark.
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: Bethman "Of all of the people who have said they wish to keep Millward on I can't see any actual reasoning for this beyond he will be better next year. This may well be the case as he will have a different group of players, however I believe we should judge him on what he has done rather than what we hope he will do.
Millward has been at the club for almost a year and I can't really see any positive impact he has made in any aspect of the on field performance or the off field perception of the club. On the field he vowed to improve our defence and said he was going to change the way we attacked, well our defence has been worse than ever and Millward himself has said our attack has looked boring at times. Off the field people talk of him cleaning up the days of going out on the lash, well since he took over we had the Owen incident over Christmas and the Chase incident, it would be impossible to say Millward is directly responsible for these incidents but if it was his agenda to introduce discipline then he's hardly been successful there.
There has also been the Mathers issue there have been people who have defended Millward on this but I think its clear that one of our biggest rivals have benefited greatly while we have suffered from the way the situation has played out, while also the way that the story was reported in the media hardly made our club look good.
One thing that has annoyed me is that at various times this year Millward has deflected some of the blame for our bad performances to the previous coaching saying we slip back into bad old habits of the previous years at times, however as far as above previous years bad habits are a vast improvement on this years habits, the coach should really be taking some of the blame for this other coaches have and do but Millward seems to have quite an ego.
Actually to be fair to Millward I've just thought of a positive for Millward, signing our best young players to long term deals was a very good move.'"
Spot on, no one has made a convincing argument on here that we will be any better next season, i dont really buy the its the out of contract players not trying argument at all and think its naive at best, danny is trying, youngquest is trying, jones is trying, hudson has tried when he has played, davies has tried, goldy tried, jackson has tried, mitchell and griffin have to try there hardest or there sl careers are over, grehan hardly played, harris and brierly haven't been given a game, the only player you can honestly say that hasnt tried who is ooc is snitch If we give milward another year we will be on sub 5k crowds so whoever comes next will have a much harder job just to avoid the wooden spoon with the smallest budget in the league, i actually think with the way crowds are falling we could be in danger of going bust, we need to act before its too late.
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| Quote: alleycat "Millward does have a good track record.'"
How is 11 wins in his last 51 professional games a good track record?
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| Quote: Fumper27 "Don't be silly. You said that no one in sport had had instant success....I was merely proving you wrong.'"
Ok then, i rephrase no one has instant success who doesn't have an unlimited amount of cash.
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| Quote: DJKYLE "Ok then, i rephrase no one has instant success who doesn't have an unlimited amount of cash.'"
Michael Maguire - wasn't his only signing his first season at Wigan Paul Deacon?
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| Quote: Gronk! "Michael Maguire - wasn't his only signing his first season at Wigan Paul Deacon?'"
And a decent squad already built for him
And the full cap to spend
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| Guys, i was talking about his time at Cas to be honest. We're an average, boring team who are hanging on for dear life in Super League. So many promises and yet we continue to take steps back rather than forward.
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| Quote: Fully "And a decent squad already built for him
And the full cap to spend'"
The same "decent squad" that spent the full salary cap that finished what, 5th? the year before so Maguire improved the team by 4 league places AND a grand final win, that is instant success.
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| Your current situation reminds me alot of Wakefield. When Danny Brough left us we struggled to fill the gap and honestly couldn't compete with most sides without a recognised SH. Millward first and foremost needs to conclude whether Rangi Chase is staying or going. Once that's resolved the club can move forward.
It's hard enough competing with the top clubs, but to have your key man and influential player missing makes it impossible. Injuries on top of Ferres & McGoldrink leaving early has put more pressure on younger less experienced players which when out of form is rather hard to cope with.
Get rid of the deadwood or players who don't want to be there and rebuild
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: Fumper27 "eusa_clap.gif
2012 - griffin and arundel?
2011 - arundel and Isa?
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| Quote: pyeman "2012 - griffin and arundel?
2011 - arundel and Isa?'"
2012 - Wasn't Griffin known more for been a centre
2011 - Wasn't that Arundel's first full season in the 1st team therefore hardly "recognised".
For 2013 we have two International centres and then Lee Gilmour to cover if needed.
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