Fully, don't go mentioning any of this to the media, Eddie and Stevo or anyone as the only team to have any injury problems this year are Saints and Leeds. Let's just all feel sorry for them while we get on with our game. difference is we'll continue to be happy at our start, give ourselves credit where it's due and criticise our team when we feel it isn't. The rest of the rugby league world can continue spouting the same old repetitive crap which is usually thought up by some ageing dinosaur of the game who simply has a recyclable list of stuff to drone on about time and time again.

Please, Graham was playing with a pectoral injury also.

As for those mcgoldrick, fozzard . . Oh dear.

That shows you don't have the strength in depth to keep up the good start.

Seems to me that you have lost your cup final vs saints . .

Had we held on maybe we could have got some mugs made

It's your cup final. Silly old repetitive crap statement we both agree and fully should stop recycling all the bile he's heard far too many times in the media.

Agree with most of that to be fair.

All the bile I've heard in the media?

What has MY opinion got to do with newspapers?

Maybe you should take off those red, white and blue glasses?

It's a silly term banded about all too frequently if there's an upset win against the tide.

And fully my dearest you jumped on that bandwagon along with media types who over the years have explained away a favoured team bested unexpectedly on the day by underdogs. That ultimately is how you justify the loss, because it was the oppositions cup final.

Kind of sad.

I believe you lost after half time when the tide of the game changed and the Wakefield team played tactically well. The odd penalty also assisting in field position and improved forward play ( which we keep seeing flashes of but can't put together just yet)

And btw, I'd like my fishing hook back from you please. .

Once you manage to free it from your mouth

You'll find Cas fans will say we threw it away and Wakey fans will say they won it. Can't argue with either to be honest because both sets of fans look at things from their own point of view. All though most would agree a side near the top of the table, 24-4 up with 35 mins to go, should beat a side near the bottom. Most Cas fans will also say though, that we had no complaints in losing. We were crap and Wakey weren't.

The annoying thing about reading the stuff the press write or talk about is absolute trash. So many times I watch Sky sports for example and shout at the idiots talking for totally forgetting the small team who is playing. Wakey, Cas, Salford, Catalan, Quins are all written off before a ball is kicked while they blabber on about Wigan and Warrington (Who often aren't even playing!) only to then claim later on they knew all along the small team would win today against all odds, while reeling off a list of excuses for the big side (insert injury list, WCC match previous week/next week, tired after last weeks big game, preparing for next weeks big game, etc etc etc. All this of course comes from lack of competition. There's no other channel pushing them, except the BBC who are just as poor in their reporting.

Worst thing about all this though, is that many fans actually buy in to their theories and continue to spout the drivel on here and similar.

No, the thing that has made me said it was your cup final was the fact you started selling mugs. It makes us out to be a bigger, better side and like it's some massive achievement to beat us, which it isn't, because you've done it consistently over the past few seasons. Good business idea, maybe, if they sell. But I'd still be embarrassed regardless. If Cas started selling t-shirts/mugs tomorrow if we beat Leeds tonight I'd be embarrassed. DVDs selling, maybe.

I have never ever said we lost because it was your cup final; the reasons we lost were (in no particular order) 1) We were poor; 2) We went to sleep; 3) A heavy penalty count in your favour and little in our favour.

Wakefield were not dangerous in attack although the comeback was good. Your scores were mainly off field position gifted by penalties given. I keep reverting back to the penalty at the scrum but we had a put in there, attacking on your line and a chance to wrap the game up. Child gives a penalty to you and the game switches back in your favour on the halfway line.

It's all by-the-by anyway and there's nothing that I or anybody else can do to change the result - enjoy your win but I wouldn't say it was entirely due to Wakefield being good. And if you want me to do a media-esque comparison it was because Cas were poor that Wakey won.

Now this is a top post

We wont agree on everything as oppossing fans as we concentrate (naturally) on our own teams performances but the derbys are enjoyable and the spoils on this occassion came to wakefield. This may not be the case later in the year.

And Fully no hard feelings eh - and i do wish cas well for this season as our neighbours but only until we play you again.

But please smash the rhinos tonight

It is your cup final afterall ( joking)

Very well said - the Sky regulars have their love affair with the so-called glamour sides and will always talk them up, or make excuses for them when they get turned over. I can't imagine what they'd make of a resurgent Wakey or Cas, playing out of a shiny stadium and vying for honours.

We were full of injuries too you plank so before you come trolling, it would be good to know what you was on about.

We will lose against wire then if we lose to quins comeback but i gaurantee you we will beat quins.

True.

Because the big clubs are so lavished with talent, it seems like a shock when a couple of them are missing. When Leeds or Warrington get a couple of injuries you'd think they were struggling to put 17 out when in reality they've still got a bench full of internationals, many of whom would walk into a 'smaller' clubs first choice team.

Settle down me old bean, not trolling just a little fishing and I hooked a big one for my entertainment .

All teams will have injuries throughout the season but the reality is top teams ala saints, Leeds, Wigan, wire have the strength in depth that clubs such as ours dont have the luxury of.

Anyway I watched vs Leeds, unlucky i was hoping cas would pull off a win. Wire will be another tough ask for you but quins you should stuff.

I won't come back and gloat if you slip down, happened to us at wakey last year and it's not a good feeling I know.