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| Quote: tigerman10 "welldone wakey fans, another ground thread derailed
Have you noticed that everytime there's a concern about Newmarket - i.e. the latest YEP article - or someone opposing them, they keep spouting on about us moving to J30. I think they ACTUALLY want us to move to try and increase their chances of PP getting given.
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| In all seriousness why dont wakey and cas both just cut the crap and stop chasing pipedreams of a ground. The best way forward for all parties would be a joint venture 14k ground for both clubs to groundshare.
As ive even said before, you could even split the ground to have two cas stands and two wakey stands to give it a novelty feel. Both sell season tickets and tickets in your home stands, and one of the other stands could serve on a normal match day for away fans, leaving one closed which would be more than enough for all league games bar the derby.
Then come derby day twice a year open up the whole ground with cas on one side and wakey on the other.
Its realistically the only way its ever going to happen and could add a bit of a novelty factor to the ground.
Otherwise both clubs will be left playing in the holes of grounds you have now and playing NL rugby in 5 years time.
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Maybe if you and wakey fans stopped banging your heads against that brick wall youve just put up and pool your resources you might both have a chance of a new ground and a super league licence in 5 years. As it stands your destined for the national league and will still be playing at belle view and wheldon road in 2025!!
A shared ground makes perfect sense and is the only realistic way your ever both going to get the funds to build a new ground
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| The other mods and I hate the school holidays. "But we're all adults" I hear you cry. Start bloody acting like it then.
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......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "In all seriousness why dont wakey and cas both just cut the crap and stop chasing pipedreams of a ground. The best way forward for all parties would be a joint venture 14k ground for both clubs to groundshare.
As ive even said before, you could even split the ground to have two cas stands and two wakey stands to give it a novelty feel. Both sell season tickets and tickets in your home stands, and one of the other stands could serve on a normal match day for away fans, leaving one closed which would be more than enough for all league games bar the derby.
Then come derby day twice a year open up the whole ground with cas on one side and wakey on the other.
Its realistically the only way its ever going to happen and could add a bit of a novelty factor to the ground.
Otherwise both clubs will be left playing in the holes of grounds you have now and playing NL rugby in 5 years time.'"
Its makes perfect sense if you know nothing about the situation.
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| I like to think that I pay attention to the whole stadium story but at this point with all of the speculation, blogs and nay saying from other fans I have to admit that I have lost track of just what the actual facts are and I and others I know would feel a lot more secure in our future with just a few answers.
1:Where is the main bulk of the funding for the stadium comming from? (I know it isnt the council or just from the land sale)
2:Have we (The club) asked the RFL what would happen to our franchise in the case of a serious delay to the project even if it was ongoing?
3:What is the delay with the architects?
4:Are there any realistic timescales for the begining and completion of the stadium from all parties concerned?
5:Is there a plan B i.e the Keepmoat or sharing with them over there?
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| Quote: bigmclargehuge "I like to think that I pay attention to the whole stadium story but at this point with all of the speculation, blogs and nay saying from other fans I have to admit that I have lost track of just what the actual facts are and I and others I know would feel a lot more secure in our future with just a few answers.
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My understanding is...
1) I think the official line is "Um, er, um..". Between the lines it seems to be that the club have SOME of the money (maybe even MOST?) already in place, enough to kick of a 'staged' build at least. It's not much of a leap to conclude that the a*se falling out of the property market has put a serious dent in the saleable value of certain assets the club were relying on to sell. The upshot is there's almost certainly some undisclosed shortfall which means a reduced pot. That means staging the Glasshoughton build, such as building something with 2 or maybe 3 sides at first. Of course that would mean a reduced capacity, below the magic 12,000 number required. Whether the RFL would accept such an outcome is the $64M question... but I fear they probably wouldn't.
2) The club claims to be appraising the RFL of the build situation on an ongoing basis. Nothing concrete about what the RFL are feeding back has ever been forthcoming (apart from the 'warning' Cas and four other clubs received about their franchise promises). My feeling? ... it doesn't look good.
3) I don't think there is a particularly huge delay with the architects, though perhaps the changes outlined in '1' had not originally been part of the submission remit given to the 'final four'? If that's the case I'd expect they've been told to review their designs with a view to possibly building what they've come up with in stages. Just a guess on my part, but if I'm right then such a consideration would be vital.
4) Well the only realistic timescale I suppose is the last thing RW said, apparently.
5) Apparently Cas DO have a Plan 'B' (in fact the RFL made note of it when the first Franchise app's went in) but nobody's too sure what it is. The assumption seems to be something along the lines of "tart up Wheldon Road".
I'm not sure if that clarifies or muddies the waters, but there you go.
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| Thanks for that Disco sir.
It really is a long drawn out slog this stadium buissness and I just wish it was done and dusted already!
Hey ho I suppose all this waiting will make it all the sweeter when/if we get in there along with all the benefits and opportunities that it brings although I will be sad to leave the old place and all those memories behind but this too big an opportunity to miss out on with the prime location that could send us to the next level that we all dream of.
We live in hope!
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| It will be a ground share, You can put money on that
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| Quote: Dettoriman "It will be a ground share, You can put money on that'"
Ive mortgaged my house on your tip
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| Quote: Tigerpie "OK, lets see, how do we make this clear to you..................................................................................
I've got it!! Why not pop along Atherton Rd, at the end of which you'll find signs for a place called Leigh.....cracking little town in your own borough with its own stadium, probably around 3-4 miles from the shared ground you have access to at present, then go and share a ground with them.................
......what? Never!! Not a chance in hell!! I hear you say........you really would not like it at all would you?
1. Its not in wigan and therefore not like having a joint ground in normanton or somewhere between the two
2. Its no where near big enough, we could only accomodate Season ticket holders
3. Its is more like 7-8 miles from wigan rather than three you suggest
4. both clubs have grounds which are up to SL standard, rather than both chasing pipedreams of grounds that will never happen unless they pool resources
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| Quote: Gaslight "How does it make "perfect sense" to do the followingAbandon one of two sites that have had a lot of money pumped into them
Abandon one of two sites that have planning permission for a stadium
Tell one set of two architects that the contract they have is now void
Tell both sets of fans that they're moving out of the clubs own town
Tell current backers & sponsors that all the money they've put into one stadium is no longer needed and they've wasted it
It is not viable AT ALL, especially with Cas being a few months from building and Wakey 4-5 months behind that.]'"
Has all of that REALLY happened or is it just lifted from the BS placed in both clubs SL applications.
Lets be honest, neither club has even released proper architectural drawings of the ground your that far off!!! Cartoon drawings by some student doing a BTEC at Cas college dont count...but the RFL do usually accept this in SL applications so as long as that continues you should be reet!
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Has all of that REALLY happened or is it just lifted from the BS placed in both clubs SL applications.
Lets be honest, neither club has even released proper architectural drawings of the ground your that far off!!! Cartoon drawings by some student doing a BTEC at Cas college dont count...but the RFL do usually accept this in SL applications so as long as that continues you should be reet!'"
Well if you're so all knowing
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