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| Quote: Tricky2309 "If Cas were serving up the boring one out ineffective rugby we are and having the same basic problems week in week out that the coach fails to address then you might feel the same way as some of us do'"
We do, occasionally. See Wakefield Cup match. |
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WE ARE WAKEFIELD, WITHOUT THE RICHARDSONS’ WE ARE STRONGER:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_42850.jpg |
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| Quote: Fully "We do, occasionally. See Wakefield Cup match.'"
I could live with occasionally. |
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans.  [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: Fully "Wakey have a better onfield record in the SL era. I am laughing my head off at that comment. Yes, we've been relegated but we've also made the play-offs more times too.'"
Couldn't stop laughing when i read that, we have been in the play offs 4 times to there two! he kept repeating we had been relegated but glossed over the fact one of those was from 11th place, a position wakefield have finished in 5 of there seasons in sl, they were lucky they finished 11th so often in the years where you couldn't get relegated from 11th place. Didn't mention that if were not for cas in 2002 (iirc) they would have been relegated either. |
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[b:3fhhmde5][size=150:3fhhmde5]THE CO-OPERATIVE CHAMPIONSHIP NEEDS A STRONG WIGAN[/size:3fhhmde5][/b:3fhhmde5]: |
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| Quote: pyeman "Couldn't stop laughing when i read that, we have been in the play offs 4 times to there two! '"
4 times? 3 innit? |
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Nope, four.
1999, 2000, 2002, 2009
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[b:3fhhmde5][size=150:3fhhmde5]THE CO-OPERATIVE CHAMPIONSHIP NEEDS A STRONG WIGAN[/size:3fhhmde5][/b:3fhhmde5]: |
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| Quote: Fully "Nope, four.
1999, 2000, 2002, 2009'"
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Goodbye all. It was nice knowing most of you.: |
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Didnt we finish 5th in 2009? You need to practice what you preach about getting the facts right'"
Sorry, yes, slip of the finger! Can't apologise enough. Now let's have a look at the overall stats in the light of this mistake...
Cas: Average 9th
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Goodbye all. It was nice knowing most of you.: |
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| Quote: Tricky2309 "Surely though the calculation is flawed as having been in a lower division for 2 seasons should earn some sort of penalty against your average place finish. Afterall if its about contribution to the competition you can't contribute if your not in it.'"
Quote: Tricky2309 "The penalty would be equal though, considering we've both spent two years out of Super League. Even if they do not count, I'd guess Cas would still be ahead. Besides, IA has made an invalid point anyway originally. It's not about who has actually contributed over the past 15 years but the last licensing period in which case Cas have finished 7th and 9th and Wakey 5th and 11th
Can I just say that Cas were in a lower division in 2005 and 2007. Wakey were in a lower division in 1996, 1997 and 1998, so any penalty for this would adversely affect Wakey more than Cas. That's why I did it that way, to try to stop any accusations of bias. 
I know that a new licence only takes into account how we feature during the previous licensing period, but I was trying to reply to the point made which was about the relative performances of Cas and Wakey during the whole of Super League. I've been accused in the past of springing too readily to the defence of Cas against people trolling on here which is why I've been more reluctant to post over the last couple of months, but this business is just getting out of hand - and in trying to set the record straight I seem to have touched a raw nerve again (partly due to the fact I mistyped a number into my spreadsheet, for which I sincerely apologise). For anyone who's interested, the 6th position I quoted was simply a typo, because when I checked it in my records (and double checked on the SL site) Wakey were indeed 5th.
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| Quote: Inflatable Armadillo "Wakefield have a better on field record over the SL era than Cas, never been relegated and have an average finishing position of 8th to Cas's 9th I think. '"
Having looked at this in more detail, I fail to see at all where the figures come from.
(1) Relegation
While it's true Wakefield have never been relegated, they spent the first three years outside Superleague. Cas have only spent 2 years outside Superleague.
(2) Average Finishing Position
In the Superleague Era, as I've already posted, Cas's average finishing position is 9th, Wakefield's is 10.6th.
In Superleague alone (i.e ignoring any seasons spent in lower leagues), the average finishing positions are Cas on 8.3 and Wakefield on 9.25. In all leagues since Wakefield entered Superleague (i.e 1999 and afterwards), the average finishing positions are Cas on 9.17 and Wakefield on 9.25.
The only time that anything like your figures would apply would be if you averaged the three years 2008-2010 inclusive, with Cas on 9.3 and Wakefield on 8.3, which doesn't really fit the description "over the Super League Era"
(3) Overall Performance on the Field
According to my records, Cas have played 346 games in SL, winning 143 of them (41.3%) drawing 12 (3.5%) and losing 191 (55.2%).
Compared with this, Wakefield have played 334 games in SL, winning 120 of them (35.9%) drawing 4 (1.3%) and losing 210 (62.9%).
Cas have reached the playoffs on 4 occasions, Wakefield have done it on 2 occasions.
(These figures are to the end of the 2010 season)
In conclusion, it's difficult to say that Wakefield "have a better on field record over the SL era than Cas" because the figures just don't bear it out. |
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| So after all that, what's your conclusion Georgie? |
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Goodbye all. It was nice knowing most of you.: |
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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
IA mode off.  [/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg |
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| Quote: Georgie Best on a Bloomer "Soz, Fully, I'm not allowed to draw conclusions any more because some people take me to task for it, (or accuse me of being anti-Wakefield).  ). The RFL have made this about Stadiums (which I think is wrong in the case 'between' Wakefield and Cas) and you are and Wakefield are both in the same boat and that is why you should both get more time. You think I am biased because you don't like the news... well once again... tough!
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I wouldn't bother reading this bit, there is nothing interesting, witty or insightful down here, just this collection of boring words explaining that you really are wasting your time browsing this signature in the vain and futile hope that there will be a nugget, nay, a veritable goldmine of witticisms or divine philosophy. In reality, all you're going to get is disappointment, a sense of hopelessness and a random word.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "[i... More condescending bullcrap[/i'"
Whatever dude, am still trying to figure out why you are so popular on the Wakey board and yet you are so vilified on here. Must be your neutrality that so offends/pleases people. |
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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable
...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo]
[quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>
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| Quote: ParanoidAndroid "Whatever dude, am still trying to figure out why you are so popular on the Wakey board and yet you are so vilified on here. Must be your neutrality that so offends/pleases people.'"
Right, must go after this post... I occasionally have to do some work and have a plane to catch! 
I have just told the truth on there too but of course I am actively supporting Newmarket because I live close to the site and of course, the previous Wakey regime was guilty of understating and under-presenting Newmarket, and I don't want to get into a RW bashing argument again, so lets just say Cas have been much better at presenting the positives...
I know why some posters don't like me, because they don't like the news, it does challenge the perception of most Cas fans and that is the issue... but that is just how it is... I can't change that!
I have some more information coming in and also another theory, but might not share those yet without some more cross-checking of the information! |
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Once a Sandal Wild Cat always a Sandal Wild Cat.
Some talk of Bradford Northern and some of Hull and Leeds
Of Wigan and St Helens and such great teams as these
Of all the teams in Rugby league with me you will agree
The best team in the whole wide world is Wakefield Trinity!
[color=#FF0000:3drl5tww]Bring back the British Coal shirts for 2012[/color:3drl5tww]
[color=#FF0000:3drl5tww]Come home Steve Georgallis & Nigel Wright[/color:3drl5tww]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_54709.jpg |
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We love you IA, we do!
We love you IA, we do!
We love you IA, we do!
Oh...... IA we love you!!
(from ALL the WMDC district!)
Have a good flight bud!
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