the_grobs...no offence but you are stupid I wouldn't dare put my hard-earned money into the Whinos gates when we are playing so bad even Salford are doing better than us. Hopefully the bedraggled team will give you something to cheer you about...99% chance they won't but we live in hope.

ok haha more fool you then!!!!! Hopefully we can pull of a shock but I highly doubt it

I'm just getting sick of speculation, rumours and one issue after another. Club need to come out once and for all say something. They're only alienating their primary investors - US.

What has rangi done that is "bang out of order" exactly?

A club in turmoil, that is probably something of an over exaggeration.
What has gone so wrong since the first half of last season, when you were a club very much not in turmoil??

There's now a coach that the players have no respect for, that's the biggest change.

Who told you this? Same person who told you pg was introduced to your players?

If that is the case how do you explain your poor finish to last season, that wasn't Millwards fault was it?

No but at that point the team also had more injured players than fit ones. Including every prop at the club being out injured at one point.

I don't see how you can pin Millward with the owner or whoever wanting out and a couple of players apparently wanting to leave! Wire is allegedly the club after Clark and they are very much in the business of poaching other club's young players instead of promoting from within. Saints lost James Graham, Kyle Eastmond and Leon Pryce last season. Sometimes players leave clubs; sometimes they join them. You've just signed Jamie Ellis who loved playing for Millward, as did all the Leigh team so far as I can see and so did the Saints team under him.

hmmm. Basil is a coach that is very difficult to judge.
Excellent at Saints. the worst coach that wigan have ever seen.
OK for Leigh - but thats not exactly a high pressure position.

Was Basil lucky to inherit a team at saints ? or did he build it himself ?
because at Wigan he appeared to have no clue in the transfer market, and destroyed the players confidence by playing them out of position.

If Cas have inherited the Wigan version - then nothing that is happening comes as a surprise

TBF to Millward, he seems to be the only one commited to the cas cause, what with the chief exec rumoured to be wanting to jump ship, and players wanting to jump ship!!!

That's because of Millward, nothing else.

The club need to get shut of him now, it might cost money now but it will generate money in the long term because the crowds will drop even further if he stays in charge.

I wouldn't say he's in on the Cas cause either, he's helped Leigh more this year than he has Cas!

How do you know all this for a fact Gronky??