To Guttfax, would you follow a London side directed say 50-100 miles away from where they are located now elsewhere with a totally different name? Just curious. Seems a shame if Quins were to fold or what not, seem to be giving youth a chance down there.

Please point me in the direction of where travelling supporters count in the licence criteria? The same can be said of your impact on the attendance at Warrington this year, where the gate was recorded as their worst of the season. Quins, the french and the cottage burners don't bring many, so forward thinking clubs like FC and Wigan MARKET the games....to account for this and as a result, get bumper gates.

They shouldn't......I think the current figure for quins is three THOUSAND three hundred and ninety four....

....they aren't non-proven, they are development areas. So, people like you expect 300 London RL Internationals straight away? Fans are an issue.....development is not, neither is the growth the game has experienced in the last 5 years alone down in the south.

...they haven't. But the speed at which the SL chairmen readmitted the broncos in 2005 would point to either them all being closet cockneys or them all knowing what side their breads buttered on.

....see you really anti expansionist aren't you. How would you expect a London team to find 30 local lads who play league when there wasn't really any network in place? As it is, Quins are now the most British SL club.....I suggest you go and have a look at HKR if you want to discuss exemptions.

the french maybe, not us. Unless you can prove it, don't type it...all you do is make yourself look even more marginalised than you are.

All 3 of the expansion teams got a free ticket.....could be something to do with the expansion of the game from a 1 road past time into a truly national sport....maybe not fair on the likes of Keighly, Widnes and Leigh...but you try making an omlette without breaking a few eggs.


...get off the fence and tell us what you really think

Nothing to do with dishes, everything to do with Advertisers.....not many people want to spend loads of money advertising their product to a small audience....having the French, cockney and welsh element makes the game look more appealing to advertisers.



Will follow the club where ever they play and whatever they are called. As for the youth, that would then become the RFL's problem. Quins employ a load of community staff....would the RFL be prepared to keep it going? Would it be worth keeping going with no SL team?

I hope so.

Quote: gutterfax "Please point me in the direction of where travelling supporters count in the licence criteria? The same can be said of your impact on the attendance at Warrington this year, where the gate was recorded as their worst of the season. '" Have to correct you on that front mate. It was a typo that was replicated by every website. The attendance was actually over 10,000, which is more than a few Wire home games. www.warringtonwolves.org/clarkey ... pack--3548

Quote: gutterfax "Please point me in the direction of where travelling supporters count in the licence criteria? The same can be said of your impact on the attendance at Warrington this year, where the gate was recorded as their worst of the season. '" Have to correct you on that front mate. It was a typo that was replicated by every website. The attendance was actually over 10,000, which is more than a few Wire home games. www.warringtonwolves.org/clarkey ... pack--3548

I accept your point and I'm not one to disagree. However, for me it is a case of both sides of the arguments. The only way individual clubs are going to get stronger is by getting more of both home and away fans through your turnstiles. The big lure of a heartland club over one from outside the M62 corridor is that 3,000 fans coming instead of 30 is the financial aspect. In essence, the heartland clubs would effectively be richer, attendances would look stronger. However, you would lose the national aspect, that growth from outside the traditional regions. It really is a double-edged sword. But I think there is a stretching point. Catalans, Crusaders (although they have brought more this season) and Quins all bring limited crowds. How many more of those sides who bring money to clubs are you going to sacrifice for a club outside the heartlands? Similarly, how much impact does having a London club in Super League affect the TV rights? Nobody knows - it's all hypothetical. However, the brand image of Super League has changed over the course of the last fourteen years. If it was about London being in the elite, I'd still bet that the most of the people living in the South would still watch rugby league and Super League on TV. I think estimating that TV rights would go down is premature. Would losing Man Utd from the Premier League and having someone like - no disrespect to them - Wycombe promoted alter the TV rights for football? Probably. However, in that respect would losing someone like Wigan from Super League affect it more than Harlequins? I don't know. A lot of information to digest and the only people that know are Sky. PS. The RFL's site said 10,577 too....www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/result ... Warrington

I accept your point and I'm not one to disagree. However, for me it is a case of both sides of the arguments. The only way individual clubs are going to get stronger is by getting more of both home and away fans through your turnstiles. The big lure of a heartland club over one from outside the M62 corridor is that 3,000 fans coming instead of 30 is the financial aspect. In essence, the heartland clubs would effectively be richer, attendances would look stronger. However, you would lose the national aspect, that growth from outside the traditional regions. It really is a double-edged sword. But I think there is a stretching point. Catalans, Crusaders (although they have brought more this season) and Quins all bring limited crowds. How many more of those sides who bring money to clubs are you going to sacrifice for a club outside the heartlands? Similarly, how much impact does having a London club in Super League affect the TV rights? Nobody knows - it's all hypothetical. However, the brand image of Super League has changed over the course of the last fourteen years. If it was about London being in the elite, I'd still bet that the most of the people living in the South would still watch rugby league and Super League on TV. I think estimating that TV rights would go down is premature. Would losing Man Utd from the Premier League and having someone like - no disrespect to them - Wycombe promoted alter the TV rights for football? Probably. However, in that respect would losing someone like Wigan from Super League affect it more than Harlequins? I don't know. A lot of information to digest and the only people that know are Sky. PS. The RFL's site said 10,577 too....www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/result ... Warrington

Hi Marshman.
Just to answer your query about where Quin's fans live, it is not just restricted to the area around Twickenham.
There are a hardcore "London R.L". (Crusader's, Broncos or Quin's) fans who are passionate about their rugby league & definately "London Till I Die" mentality.
Unfortunately, we number only about 1000-1500 & come from all over the Southern Counties.
For me to get to a home game from Kent, I have to get a bus, then a train into Waterloo & then another train to Twickenham.
About 2 hours travel in all.
There are others from Kent, Colchester & Billericay in Essex who have a longer journey than myself.
So as you can see, we do have a faithful following & are proud to be associated with London Rugby League.
Will see you in the Bootroom tomorrow for a pint. At the last count, I think there may be at least 10 of us travelling up on the train, plus others coming by car.
Hopefully we will give you a good runout & push you close for the win.

Safe journey, BB.

I wouldnt even respond to the nob mate, he's a cock who lives down under thinking he knows all

As opposed to you two co(ks who live in the same town you were born in and think it's indicative of the universe

and I think that's enough of that.