There is a difference between spinning a positive tale and blaming everyone else, the latter of which which you implied he would do in your post.



And when exactly did I mention Wakefield, or are you confusing me with someone else? Or is it just because of your inbuilt bias that you think I have any axe to grind with Wakefield's stadium plan or their SL franchise. You may find it difficult to believe, but I think that SL should have both clubs, that Cas vs Wakefield derbies are ones that get the pulse racing and no matter where either club is in the table, you can never call the result. Nothing wrong with Wakefield, although their trolls can be a pain in the butt at times.



So, do you always tell the truth, or do you hide things at times? Why not go round in a sandwich board every day with "There's no such thing as Santa" on it. Let's face it, the truth hurts, but at least we can then all get on and spend our money on more useful things than buying dirty great shedfuls of useless plastic tat at Christmas. So why don't you carry on and do that too?




Double standards? Not at all. The County Council's duty is to serve the PEOPLE of the County. Castleford Tigers RLFC and the Rugby Football League are NOT public bodies. They get their money from people who CHOOSE to pay them. The Council get their money from people who are FORCED to pay, so surely, the people who have no choice other than fund the council have a right to petition them to request the services that they want or need. ATEOTD, Cas Tigers have every right to pull out of the RFL and become a sports club affiliated with another body (Manningham to Bradford City, Wakefield Trinity from Union to Northern Union), and the fans are NOT obliged to pay Cas for their services. If they live in the area, they are obliged to pay the Council. That's why it's two completely different situations.



Heads out of the sand? I really don't know if you're for real here. I for one do not have my head in the sand. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that RW is not one to have his head in the sand. The fans have not got their heads in the sand - putting signatures together for a petition and trying to get the stadium process moving does not smack of complacency. I think we all know that this is going to be a tricky and involved process, but as a small town, no sugar daddy backer and in the middle of a recession it was never going to be easy.

Are you for real, have you actual read the thread... you are looking for something that isn't there... one of the definitions of paranoia!

I was accused (by Gotcha) of being biased towards Wakey over Crusaders... and you know what, I am guilty as charged... I am also biased in favour of Cas v Crusaders as well BTW. But I have told you that already...

Cas are not mentioned by me until the 6th page of the thread and this is what I said -


Straws, at, clutching!!!!

From what I have read, I have interpreted that you have a slight bias towards Wakefield, which isn't a bad thing (much). I am not saying you are anti-Cas just that you have more of a leaning towards Wakefield. The reaction to your posts on the respective Cas and Wakey boards tells you all you need to know or is it that we (Wakey & Cas) are all misinterpreting your 'information'?

Wakey have a better onfield record in the SL era. I am laughing my head off at that comment. Yes, we've been relegated but we've also made the play-offs more times too.

Comparisons are hard to do, but taking overall positions on the league into account (Numbering top of SL as No.1 and then carrying on down through the lower leagues on a continual system, so currently top of Championship 1 is No. 15 and so on, these are the comparative finishes of the 2 clubs in the Super League era...

Year Cas Wake
2010 9 11
2009 7 6 (Apologies
2008 12 8
2007 13 8
2006 11 10
2005 14 10
2004 12 6
2003 8 11
2002 6 11
2001 8 10
2000 5 10
1999 5 11
1998 6 13
1997 10 17
1996 9 18

This leaves Cas with an average finish of 9th and Wakey with an average finish of 10.7th. (Correction Cas have also spent one more year in SL than Wakey. Always helps to get your facts right before you start saying stuff, to save embarrassment!

He's taken it from Castigers.net which is wrong as it only lists 26 games.

someone do the maths with this new stat thrown in then

The petition has been checked with the Council I have been informed. It's fine. Get over it, simple as. I don't know planning IA; I don't work in planning and never have. I was just spitballing.

But you do certainly have an agenda loathe as much as you don't want to admit it. Otherwise you wouldn't be trying to shoot it down at every opportunity.

Does sod all to it. Divide 1 by 15 and take it off. 10.6 recurring.

Surely though the calculation is flawed as having been in a lower division for 2 seasons should earn some sort of penalty against your average place finish. Afterall if its about contribution to the competition you can't contribute if your not in it.

The penalty would be equal though, considering we've both spent two years out of Super League. Even if they do not count, I'd guess Cas would still be ahead. Besides, IA has made an invalid point anyway originally. It's not about who has actually contributed over the past 15 years but the last licensing period in which case Cas have finished 7th and 9th and Wakey 5th and 11th = EQUAL FINISH.

Can't believe some of your lot are wanting him sacked.

Fickle hardly does it justice.

If Cas were serving up the boring one out ineffective rugby we are and having the same basic problems week in week out that the coach fails to address then you might feel the same way as some of us do