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| Quote: Nev0807 "Spot on. There's no way he 'regained' it. I would like to think that for a player to be deemed to have regained control of the ball (to nullify the accidental knock on), the player needs to have sufficient control that enables them to catch and control the ball before touching the ground i.e. in both hands or hand under the ball that prevents contact with the ground. If that is achieved then he then put down for a try.'"
Unfortunately, what you or me or anyone, except the VR, would like to think is irrelevant. A player does not have to be in control of the ball, he just needs to have downward pressure. Whether the law sucks is another matter.
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| Quote: tigertot "Unfortunately, what you or me or anyone, except the VR, would like to think is irrelevant. A player does not have to be in control of the ball, he just needs to have downward pressure. Whether the law sucks is another matter.'"
Yes that is true for a try but if he knocks on first then it rules out the possibility for a try.
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| Quote: CHURCHILL "It is, but we suffered that in the National Rail Final against Leigh a few years back when denied what looked like a perfect try.
Horrible feeling isn't it.
Well, seeing as I'm a Wigan and not a Cas fan, only in the sense that I don't like to see poor decisions deciding matches.
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| im huddersfield.................... cas were robbed. everybody knows it!
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| Quote: Nev0807 "Yes that is true for a try but if he knocks on first then it rules out the possibility for a try.'"
That's the nub of it. I've been racking my memory for incidents in open play where the player loses control/fumbles & then regathers, I'm sure I've seen loads & play on as been given. But the only one I can vividly recollect is Carvell for Wire last year when he fumbled before regaining control & going about 80m to score. Ironically that should not have been given, according to the rules, as it connected with the oppostion defender before he regathered.
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| Quote: Nev0807 "Spot on. There's no way he 'regained' it. I would like to think that for a player to be deemed to have regained control of the ball (to nullify the accidental knock on), the player needs to have sufficient control that enables them to catch and control the ball before touching the ground i.e. in both hands or hand under the ball that prevents contact with the ground. If that is achieved then he then put down for a try.'"
Thinking about this again last night and the interpretation of the word 'regain'. The most logical assumption one could make to clarify this grey area is that it means 'regain possession'. Then refer to my previous post for a clear meaning of the term 'in possession'...
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| Quote: Bonzo "Thinking about this again last night and the interpretation of the word 'regain'. The most logical assumption one could make to clarify this grey area is that it means 'regain possession'. Then refer to my previous post for a clear meaning of the term 'in possession'...'" Easy you lose the ball FORWARD and you dont catch it again BEFORE it hits the foor, its KNOCK ON!! RFL turning game in to a laughing stock cummings should stand down full time refs what a joke!!!
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| I got bored after reading the first three pages .
~hands over the Whinos title~
Win some . Lose some . Who cares ?
Life goes on . There's always next week .
BTW . We was robbed when you beat us ... NOT
We had a bad night , you had a good night .
FFS .. get over it .
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| You were definately robbed. It's all down to Red Hall wanting to merge Cas, Wakefield and Featherstone to form one club.
Just watch. The next move will be for you to be offered a move to the new Wakefield ground. I think it's disgusting the whole thing and won't rest until this evil is vanquished.
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| I can't read through all 14 pages of this thread, but I just watched boots n' all and I thought Cull got it bang on.... When we were in the ascendancy we made four mistakes in good ball positions and twice kicked out on the full and one kick was charged down IN THE FIRST HALF. If we had scored a converted try on any of those red-zone positions we would not have lost.
There is no conspiracy, ask yourself if that last try had been scored by one of our own players striving to get a win at the death, would you see it differently, I know I would. We lost that game, blew it, bombed it. Hull KR played average and we were worse on the day.
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| Quote: mdean "I can't read through all 14 pages of this thread, but I just watched boots n' all and I thought Cull got it bang on.... When we were in the ascendancy we made four mistakes in good ball positions and twice kicked out on the full and one kick was charged down IN THE FIRST HALF. If we had scored a converted try on any of those red-zone positions we would not have lost.
There is no conspiracy, ask yourself if that last try had been scored by one of our own players striving to get a win at the death, would you see it differently, I know I would. We lost that game, blew it, bombed it. Hull KR played average and we were worse on the day.'"
As a Wakey fan it makes no difference to us who won as both clubs are seen as top 8 rivals. But in all fairness Cas have been badly done to on 2 occasions.
Smart mouth Cullen has had all weekend to study the game yet missed Benthams 1st double error, Yes that big prop played the ball illegally but prior to that he was held up over the line and was pushed back after the ref had called it, and therefore the ball should have been played on the 10yd mark. And secondly it should not matter who dropped the ball over the line a knock on is a knock on. But not being a hypocrite I do take your point, imo we are only still in SL because the only person in the ground who thought Richards dropped the ball over the line for Wigin was the VR
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| Quote: chissitt "As a Wakey fan it makes no difference to us who won as both clubs are seen as top 8 rivals. But in all fairness Cas have been badly done to on 2 occasions.
Smart mouth Cullen has had all weekend to study the game yet missed Benthams 1st double error, Yes that big prop played the ball illegally but prior to that he was held up over the line and was pushed back after the ref had called it, and therefore the ball should have been played on the 10yd mark. And secondly it should not matter who dropped the ball over the line a knock on is a knock on. But not being a hypocrite I do take your point, imo we are only still in SL because the only person in the ground who thought Richards dropped the ball over the line for Wigin was the VR
Thatwas a bit of an escape that night wasn't it ? That's life though is it not ?
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| Quote: mdean "I can't read through all 14 pages of this thread, but I just watched boots n' all and I thought Cull got it bang on.... When we were in the ascendancy we made four mistakes in good ball positions and twice kicked out on the full and one kick was charged down IN THE FIRST HALF. If we had scored a converted try on any of those red-zone positions we would not have lost.
There is no conspiracy, ask yourself if that last try had been scored by one of our own players striving to get a win at the death, would you see it differently, I know I would. We lost that game, blew it, bombed it. Hull KR played average and we were worse on the day.'"
He's right, it wasn't Steve Ganson who made those mistakes. It was Cas.
It also wasn't Steve Ganson who got Cullen sacked from Warrington. It was Cas
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| Quote: Gazemous " It also wasn't Steve Ganson who got Cullen sacked from Warrington. It was Cas'"
I forgot that bit! maybe everyone is right it is a conspiracy and he is a hater as well! I was wrong.
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