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| I'd love to see Noble at Cas!!
As for those who talk about a 'boring brand' of rugby, they haven't got the first clue about the game!!! A coach who gets his team to play the right game plan....for the right conditions, for the right opposition.....is a coach who gets results!!
Everything that is solid and reliable in life is built on the right foundations. In our game that means good fitness, a good pack, a good defence and a solid ability to do the basics...and do them well. With that structure behind you, your attacking players have everything they need to run riot and give the entertaining game that we all want to see!!
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| Quote: the_grobs "I'd love to see Noble at Cas!!
As for those who talk about a 'boring brand' of rugby, they haven't got the first clue about the game!!! A coach who gets his team to play the right game plan....for the right conditions, for the right opposition.....is a coach who gets results!!
Everything that is solid and reliable in life is built on the right foundations. In our game that means good fitness, a good pack, a good defence and a solid ability to do the basics...and do them well. With that structure behind you, your attacking players have everything they need to run riot and give the entertaining game that we all want to see!!'"
I think it's a bit harsh to say that I haven't got the first clue about the game given I'm one of those who dislikes Noble's brand of rugby. What I can see, is that what he would bring is what we seem to lack at the moment, especially in defence, plus a winning mentality. The creativity is there, it just needs the defence to go with it.
In Noble's defence, it's 5/6 years since he left Odsal and the Bulls are even more boring than ever, so perhaps each team has their traits which are ingrained and emphasise their core style and it's up to a coach to develop their weaker areas.
The more I think about it, I'm not sure it's an attacking coach that we need - our team can do that for fun anyway. It would be nice to be sitting here not expecting a hammering tonight, but with our squad depth, injuries and defence, it's difficult to see anything else. One of Matterson's strengths as a coach has been that one worries about staying away and missing a gem of a game, which his team are so capable of producing from time to time.
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| I reckon Nobby would keep Cas Classy but really have ago at toughening up our shoddy defence. Get it installed in the young uns the importance of defence. Defend defend defend and let the attack take care of itself.
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| Using tonights game as an example, the positive noise made by the Cas fans, was without doubt during two distinct periods. Firstly, during the period which followed Rangi flattening Ben Westwood with a bell ringer of a tackle. Around the 8th or so minute. This was followed by a spell of our lads really getting stuck in with the tackling.
The second spell was following Emmitt and Coopers difference of opinions and the good old fashioned, 'all in' which followed. After this Cas again really had a spell of getting stuck in, whilst the Wires had been un-settled from their game plan. The result coming out of this was of course a few quick scores.
On both occassions the crowd noise, appreciation and enjoyment of what they were seeing seemed to rise and with it, so did players committment to the big tackles.
So lets not knock the value of a hard hitting tackling style of play. Many fans do enjoy seeing good hard solid tackles, just as much as an all out attempt to keep the ball alive looking for any opportunity of a break.
Joking appart, the lads probably just need 10 good lashings with nettles before each game to get them wound up and ready to get stuck in.
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| Quote: Bonzo "Wrong. It would be a backward step for us because he'd have a lot of young local talent that he wouldn't have a clue how to support and develop. He's proved that where he is now. Nor would he be working for a club prepared to put itself up the eyeballs in debt to waste money on second rate imports. Granted they're not all like that, infact Hull KR have an overall decent squad, which Morgan's done bugger all with.'" Yep damn you Super Leagues top tryscorer playing for a coach who doesn't know how to get the best out of his youngsters.
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| Noble is the one for me. I was fortunate enough to receive his coaching as a junior and its stuck with me more than any other coach and at that time he was very new to it. Would be a massive coup for the club if we can attract him.
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| Quote: devontiger "Looks like Noble and Morgan as coach and assistant coach next season then.'"
With what Morgan is rumoured to be on at Rovers!
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| Quote: Bonzo "Wrong. It would be a backward step for us because he'd have a lot of young local talent that he wouldn't have a clue how to support and develop.'"
That IMO is an unfair criticism of Morgan. Rovers development pathway had been eroded by the absense of cash and incentives that a prolonged spell in tier 2 brings.
And it takes time to see results. Welham (whose had another really good season) and Watts (who hasn't, admittedly) were named to the England elite squad this year. Taylor must be close to overtaking Watts. Sheriff and Cox are highly regarded. I reckon we're about where I'd realistically expected. I'd suggest that Morgan having brought us so far without the foundation of a mature youth development system as positive, not a negative, on his CV.
That said, his going to Cas seems too much of a sideways move for both you and him to make sense.
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| Mild Rover, I'd suggest not coming on the Cas board to claim Liam Watts as a success of your youth development system.
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| Quote: StuMain "Mild Rover, I'd suggest not coming on the Cas board to claim Liam Watts as a success of your youth development system.'"
He's done 3 years at Rovers while still eligible for under-20s, and those are the rules. And the charge I was answering was against Morgan for not developing promising young players. It was not a defence of Rovers credentials for developing players.
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| Just make your approach already
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| Quote: MrPhilb "Just make your approach already'"
we don't want him
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| Quote: casman2 "we don't want him'"
fwiw the Hull Daily Mail editor has tweeted that Cas are ready to make an approach.
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