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| Quote poppys mum="poppys mum"Just seen it for the first time, apart from live at the game.
I thought a player had to be in full control of the ball to score a try.
Watts just stuck his hand out and hoped for the best. he just clipped the ball....if thats full control then god help us.
If that had been in the field of play it would be classed as a knock on.'"
So we rule out any try when a player just 'touches' the ball do we, after all how can they be in 'full control' if the opposition fumble it over the line and the attacker just puts his hand on it. |
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=#0080FFOne thing I fail to understand is why KR fans feel the need to defend the decision as if they have something to lose by admitting that it was contentious at best. The 2 points are yours, you don't need to worry about losing them.
If you genuinely do think the decision was right then fair enough, but I highly doubt if it was the other way around that you wouldn't have been up in arms about it.
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| Quote Legionited="Legionited"=#0080FFOne thing I fail to understand is why KR fans feel the need to defend the decision as if they have something to lose by admitting that it was contentious at best. The 2 points are yours, you don't need to worry about losing them.
If you genuinely do think the decision was right then fair enough, but I highly doubt if it was the other way around that you wouldn't have been up in arms about it.'"
It clearly has caused disagreement amongst all fans, I suppose it was a 50-50 call and they usually go to the attacking side. I felt at the time it was no try because of the players reaction as where we were (on the halfway on the bottom step) it was impossible to see, but when they replayed it on the screen I said to the missus 'nothing wrong with that' as did a few cas fans stood nearby. Having since seen it several times, i am still of the opinion it was a good call. |
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So why wasn't the Ainscough try awarded in the first half with the 'benefit of the doubt' to the attacking side? I know they were different, but for me 1 can't be awarded and the other not :\
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| Quote rover49="rover49"It clearly has caused disagreement amongst all fans, I suppose it was a 50-50 call and they usually go to the attacking side. I felt at the time it was no try because of the players reaction as where we were (on the halfway on the bottom step) it was impossible to see, but when they replayed it on the screen I said to the missus 'nothing wrong with that' as did a few cas fans stood nearby. Having since seen it several times, i am still of the opinion it was a good call.'"
=#0080FFWell we're all entitled to our own opinions.
As was said on the previous page, if that happened in open play it would have been a knock on.
If the player knocked the ball forward in the air following a kick to the corner and then grounded it that way it would have been a knock on too. |
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"So why wasn't the Ainscough try awarded in the first half with the 'benefit of the doubt' to the attacking side? I know they were different, but for me 1 can't be awarded and the other not :\'"
He lost control before the line, Watts was over the line. |
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But still lost control.
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| I really dont see how Watts try was awarded, its just like running at a player, throwing the ball over his head and recatching it..  |
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| Quote NormyCasTiger="NormyCasTiger"I really dont see how Watts try was awarded, its just like running at a player, throwing the ball over his head and recatching it..
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=#0080FFThe only difference being the process of throwing the ball over the opponents head would be done in a controlled manner whereas this was a lack thereof and should have been punished as so. |
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Quote Legionited="Legionited"=#0080FFThe only difference being the process of throwing the ball over the opponents head would be done in a controlled manner whereas this was a lack thereof and should have been punished as so.'"
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but everyone seems to be seizing on the idea that "being in control" is the key here just because various commentators tell us it is on TV. Nowhere in the laws of the game does it mention this, all that is needed for a try to be scored is for the ball to be grounded in the in goal area, those are the rules that the referee enforces.
see for your self
www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/rugb ... 2007_%20(2).pdf
The only question for the liam watts try that needs asking was did he get his hand or arm on the ball before it hit the ground or after, I reckon that's the 50/50 call and it depends on who you support whether you think he did or not. |
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Quote Legionited="Legionited"=#0080FFThe only difference being the process of throwing the ball over the opponents head would be done in a controlled manner whereas this was a lack thereof and should have been punished as so.'"
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but everyone seems to be seizing on the idea that "being in control" is the key here just because various commentators tell us it is on TV. Nowhere in the laws of the game does it mention this, all that is needed for a try to be scored is for the ball to be grounded in the in goal area, those are the rules that the referee enforces.
see for your self
www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/rugb ... 2007_%20(2).pdf
The only question for the liam watts try that needs asking was did he get his hand or arm on the ball before it hit the ground or after, I reckon that's the 50/50 call and it depends on who you support whether you think he did or not. | |
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"But still lost control.'"
Which part of the rule says you have to have control when grounding the ball? |
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| Quote overthemoon="overthemoon"Which part of the rule says you have to have control when grounding the ball?'"
Which part of the rule book says you don't have to regather the ball before it hits the ground after knocking on? |
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