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| Quote: fevbornnbred "Fev - Daryl Powell - failed at Leeds..... A decade ago mate he has done his time and is a far better more experienced coach now....just as players develop so do Coaches...'"
Mate, you won't find anyone on here willing to let anyone have mistakes in their past and learn from them, but I agree with you completely!
This forum's majority view is: Coaches don't develop, if you say colourful things to make good copy then god forbid you ever want a proper job again, our BoD is a joke, everyone we offer the job to turns us down - Fact! |
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| Quote: mdean "I don't know anyone needs to read the papers and read press releases becuase the number of people on here who "know for sure" we have offered the job to several people who have turned it down which clearly means that we must be crap, Richard Wright upsets them and we are not attractive.
I turn down people for jobs all the time for an array of reasons - like it or not, the appointment is going to HAVE to work with our board and vice versa, so this is EXACTLY the time when we should iron these issues out....... One does not join our board or become our CEO to make money becuase sport is a well known bad investment, so; before we go steaming in blaming all concerned, unless someone comes to the table with money to take over and change the structure of the business, I am relatively grateful for the modest but stable and predictable and well managed budget we have, I would rather be stable and evolving as we are that be where Wakey, Catalan, London, Wales, Widnes..... etc are or were.
Could it be, go with me for a second, it is a leap of faith
You make some valid points and in particular the fact that sport is a bad investment option for making money,but you also need to remember that the supporters of any Rugby League Club or whatever field of sport it is,also make a financial investment in the clubs they follow.
Those investments by the supporters week in week out,both financial and physical are the reason that sport survives,so yes the BOD are important but without the fanbase your club is finished.
It is for those reasons that I believe that your fans (any fans) have the right to speculate,question and yes criticise BODs for the actions the carry out on behalf of the the clubs they represent..I don't buy into non accountability on the grounds of finance invested..This game is the peoples game and anyone entering into investment in a club needs to remember that or not bother..
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| Quote: fevbornnbred "Fev - Daryl Powell - failed at Leeds..... A decade ago mate he has done his time and is a far better more experienced coach now....just as players develop so do Coaches...'"
Exactly my point, Millward has done his time in the lower league and now deserves another chance in SL. |
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| Quote: fevbornnbred "You make some valid points and in particular the fact that sport is a bad investment option for making money,but you also need to remember that the supporters of any Rugby League Club or whatever field of sport it is,also make a financial investment in the clubs they follow.
Those investments by the supporters week in week out,both financial and physical are the reason that sport survives,so yes the BOD are important but without the fanbase your club is finished.
It is for those reasons that I believe that your fans (any fans) have the right to speculate,question and yes criticise BODs for the actions the carry out on behalf of the the clubs they represent..I don't buy into non accountability on the grounds of finance invested..This game is the peoples game and anyone entering into investment in a club needs to remember that or not bother..'"
No, I completely concur and I don't think they are free from accountability, but the furore and criticism based on SPECULATION and castigating candidates for historical reasons without an objective consideration for what they may be able to do for us now frustrates me.
I am in almost total agreement with most of what you have said, everyone fails, makes mistakes and grows and develops - thank god the people who have employed me over the years are not the posters on this forum, I would still be being turned down for jobs for p155ing the bed when I was 3! |
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Agreed about Powell. He is now a very good coach. Same could be said about Harrison. Getting Batley silverware is possibly the geatest achievement in RL this millennium.
I think its a bit harsh to say Dave Woods is failing at York. They were tipped for the wooden spoon by most and he always gives youth a chance. I would rather have a coach that got us into superleague and was never given a chance rather than a loud mouthed buffoon like Millward.
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| Quote: Tigerfeet "
Listen I ve watched his teams this season and we will probably meet them in the grand final and play offs and I know he has put together a very good side in bad circumsatnces this season at Leigh. Ask the Leythers what they think and they will probably say they love him..
Tigerfeet my point is that whoever you get has got to have more in his toolbox than just be a good coach he has got to believe in the club its ambitions, its culture, its history,its core beliefs and be able to work with every section of that club from the CEO to the ballboys/girls,and once again I do not believe IM fits that bill.
Now to tick all those boxes ive set out im guessing the club are going to have to spend big,thats just the way of the market and if a club decide the budget is smaller than the market,you have to compromise on some of the requirments your looking for. I just hope thats not the case for you lot in getting IM.
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| Quote: who needs flankers? "Agreed about Powell. He is now a very good coach. Same could be said about Harrison. Getting Batley silverware is possibly the geatest achievement in RL this millennium.
I think its a bit harsh to say Dave Woods is failing at York. They were tipped for the wooden spoon by most and he always gives youth a chance. I would rather have a coach that got us into superleague and was never given a chance rather than a loud mouthed buffoon like Millward.'"
100% AGREE ..I like Harrison...also lets remember we need to give our British Coaches a chance to develop and grow in the game and if they are good enough lets see some b..ls from BODs and give em a chance for gods sake !....please dont think im knocking overseas coaches there some good ones,but its time we started to look around us, on home soil..
no offence to TM i think he is a good coach |
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| Quote: mdean "thank god the people who have employed me over the years are not the posters on this forum, I would still be being turned down for jobs for p155ing the bed when I was 3!'"
Every club is the same when it comes to speculation I guess, on the whole most supporters are passionate about the clubs they follow and that flows through sometimes into comments that fly wide of the mark I guess,but hey thats the Rugby league community for you.
I prefer to take the positive from the fact that people care enough to "debate,speculate" on issues and therefore means our game will survive for now...the day people stop caring is the day were finished..
Think your paragraph above was spot on for a lot of us  |
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| Quote: Tigerfeet "
York - Dave Woods - failing at York
Just my opinion mind..'"
Certainly differs from the wise opinion of the club owner who offered Dave a 2 years contract recently,with the club facing the possibility of relegation,but obviously recognising that building from the bottom takes a little time and also that Dave has built the platform to move forward in a very short time span. |
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Absolutely astounded at the reaction on here to Millward. He's one of the best coaches in this country, nobody can argue with his record apart from his time at Wigan where he was never given a chance to change the culture of the club, something that he did at Leigh (twice) and Saints and won pots galore. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.
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"The Tigers are to announce their new head coach tomorrow and, despite being heavily linked with current Hull KR boss Justin Morgan, Press Association Sport understands Millward has landed the job"
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "Absolutely astounded at the reaction on here to Millward. He's one of the best coaches in this country, nobody can argue with his record apart from his time at Wigan where he was never given a chance to change the culture of the club, something that he did at Leigh (twice) and Saints and won pots galore. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.'"
His mouth is a big part of the problem. |
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| Quote: who needs flankers? "His mouth is a big part of the problem.'"
Yeah, I mean it's an absolute nightmare having a head coach with any sort of media profile, isn't it? |
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| Quote: who needs flankers? "His mouth is a big part of the problem.'"
When?
It wasn't his mouth that got him sacked at Saints.  |
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