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Quote: nottinghamtiger "But as we have found contact with the head (even if it is not the initial impact or intentional) is a disciplinary offence.'"

Can we now talk about the Gilmour head butt on 49 mins now then... I assume you'll be happy to accept a match ban for unintentional contact?

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "Can we now talk about the Gilmour head butt on 49 mins now then... I assume you'll be happy to accept a match ban for unintentional contact?'"


We are having this discussion on your forum, I think it's a head clash BUT in fairness, it is technically contact with the head of the player with the ball, and it should be no different to accidental contact with the shoulder or arm.

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If that's shoulder to shoulder, I'll be the new Pope.

O'Brien's arm is clearly underneath that of Scruton's.

It's a shoulder to the cheek. Given Rangi's was not as bad, it should be at least a 3 game ban.

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Remember Rangi had previous though for a very similar offence, which will have increased his ban.
However, the incident is worse IMO as O'Brien does not have the ball.
2 match ban for me, maybe 1 with an early guilty plea if he has the option.

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it seems the some Bulls fans must have some sort of body deformity's, or maybe cross eyed, they see a picture of a Bulls player hitting a player with a late high shoulder charge, but they think its shoulder to shoulder, when you wake up tomorrow and your not so exited take another look, when a player gets killed by a mis timed shoulder charge, his team can do what the Catalan club have done & say well we didn't think it was that bad plus our doctors tried to help.

The game was close until Mr Ganson intervened, i dont give a toss about loosing i do give a toss about the welfare of the players, when the officials turn a blind eye or mis these incidents it make the whole competition look amateurish

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Why has the photo been removed is it too damaging for Mr Silverwoods rep

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Is it allowed to discus the game itself? And to comment that the score flattered us, and we came close several times to blowing it when it was in the balance? We were the better side...not by a country mile though, and I suspect had Chase been playing and given our own weakness in the halves, we would quite likely have been looking at a rather different result.

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Quote: Fully "If that's shoulder to shoulder, I'll be the new Pope.

O'Brien's arm is clearly underneath that of Scruton's.

It's a shoulder to the cheek. Given Rangi's was not as bad, it should be at least a 3 game ban.'"


The initial contact was clearly with the shoulder of O'Brien, was a fair challenge and Scruton shouldn't get any ban or fine for it.

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Quote: Adeybull "Is it allowed to discus the game itself? And to comment that the score flattered us, and we came close several times to blowing it when it was in the balance? We were the better side...not by a country mile though, and I suspect had Chase been playing and given our own weakness in the halves, we would quite likely have been looking at a rather different result.'"


I actually thought you were signifantly better, the play-the-ball was much faster and caused us problems all game. I think it is down to this that the Cas players lost their discipline, they could not cope with the speed of Bradford in posession.
Chase would have made a difference but he deserved not to be playing.

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Quote: bullboy1997 "The initial contact was clearly with the shoulder of O'Brien, was a fair challenge and Scruton shouldn't get any ban or fine for it.'"


Interesting, I didn't think any tackle on a player without the ball was fair, regardless of where the contact was?

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Regardless of where it start, if it hits the face and results in someone having to be taken off for treatment, it should be a ban.

Was at the game, thought it was bad. Saw the big screen highlights, thought it was bad. Image still shows me it's bad.

People were bagging Chase for the same last week. I expect the same level of hysteria and slagging off that Chase received.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Interesting, I didn't think any tackle on a player without the ball was fair, regardless of where the contact was?'"


He was already committed to the tackle and didn't have time to pull out.

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Quote: Adeybull "Is it allowed to discus the game itself? And to comment that the score flattered us, and we came close several times to blowing it when it was in the balance? We were the better side...not by a country mile though, and I suspect had Chase been playing and given our own weakness in the halves, we would quite likely have been looking at a rather different result.'"


Disagree. Bulls were better defensively and the forwards made more yards. Once we went in 12-6 down playing with the slope I knew we were on to a loser.

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "I actually thought you were signifantly better, the play-the-ball was much faster and caused us problems all game. I think it is down to this that the Cas players lost their discipline, they could not cope with the speed of Bradford in posession.
Chase would have made a difference but he deserved not to be playing.'"


We were quicker at the ptb, and some of our offloads and kicks were pretty good. And our pack finally got on top. So I can see where you are coming from. And I never thought I'd see the day when Bulls were becoming known for their speed, must admit!

But that all comes to nothing if you can't turn that into points near the line, or make panicky decisions when a cool head and some patience would serve better. We got away with it today, since you didn't punish us for it, but we need to improve a fair bit in this department, IMO as we saw last week at Hull. I suspect our head coach will not be as happy as you might expect he would be - be interested to see what he has to say, though.

And sorry, on reflection that maybe reads as if I'm suggesting you weren't that hot. Not my intent - and you were far, far better than woeful Wakey two weeks ago. Until aboput 60 mins I was worried you would get back on top. Maybe I'm still surprised that we have a team to follow, and one that is perhaps doing better than many expected?

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Given that our pack were 2nd best in the middle of the pitch i'd bring Emmitt & Fleming for next week.

How long is Mason out for?

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