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Quote: Tigerade "Would Wigan want to sign a player like Chase who is disruptive, petulant and basically does whatever he wants ?'"


He wouldn't get away with what he does at Cas. We don't exactly have much discipline with players and their social lives like other clubs do

IMO, that has been the problem for the past 10 years and I believe it shows on the pitch

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Quote: duke street 10 "If Chase was out on Friday he should rightly be dropped.

I think all this is something that we see a lot in Football circles and sadly it is starting in R.L now, if i am wrong i will apologise but has it gone something like this?.....

Wigan leak to the press that they are interested in Chase (but not at the price Cas are likely to command for him)as they are losing both starting half backs next season.

Press ask the question of Wigan's interest to Chase who is flattered and interested (no surprise given the state of the club at present).

Wigan then say they are no longer interested in Chase, who probably upset at losing out playing for a competitive team goes out 2 days before a match bringing him into conflict with the club, in an attempt to force the clubs hand.

What could happen?....Cas are stook with an unhappy player who doesn't put the effort in and is distruptive behind the scenes.

Wigan then come in again and we accept a reduced ammount to get rid of the bad influence.

I hope i am wrong.'"


I actually think there is a worse outcome - Wigan actually reconsider their position knowing S Wane as we do through the media that any single step out of line is unacceptable on and off the field.

So now we have a petulant player who has burned some bridges, but nowhere for them to go - It is difficult to manage and unless you want to be like Manchini and accept that players are more important than you as a manager and your rules count for nothing - as a head coach do you not accept anyone disrespecting the club and its badge and play them without another word and the damage that does to the squad.

Not easy - but sport is a very fickle suitor and a statement here, handshake there and a good performance and most sins are absolved - look at Rooney for England and Man U....

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Does anyone actually know what happened? I thought there would be a lot more chat about this?

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Quote: PopTart "Does anyone actually know what happened? I thought there would be a lot more chat about this?'"


It is difficult - there are two primary stories doing the rounds which could be shared, but similarly saying they are alledged doesn't protect people from being in a tricky legal position - so I would suggest that there is no great value in posting supposition and allegations.

Much as it is fun and most people appreciate the difference between an allegation and a tale, as opposed to the truth - but I am not prepared to take that risk!
The Mod's could allow a thread to be created called the "Completely unfounded alleagations threar - where everything is just plain fiction"

that might allow some lee-way.

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Will the Bulls plight and the sudden availability of several realistic/quality targets to anyone with cap space affect our BODs view of the Chase situation?

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Quote: smoking monkey "Will the Bulls plight and the sudden availability of several realistic/quality targets to anyone with cap space affect our BODs view of the Chase situation?'"

YEah, get rind of Chase and use the money on Kearney, Gale, Addy & Elima

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Fumper27 "YEah, get rind of Chase and use the money on Kearney, Gale, Addy & Elima'"


Cant say i agree (especially considering no one knows what his suspension is about) we need players like chase (and clark) if we are ever going to progress as a club.

As for the players you mentioned i don't rate kearney defensively, though he is good going forward, gale would be welcome as he is a good young english half back, addy has some potential and would be cheapish so once again i would take him, elima is a beast and a player would should defiantly be in for.

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Chase is appearing to be more hassle than he is worth. He seems to have already forgotten that Cas took him from his crappy life in Australia and put him on the RL map. I think things are looking good for 2013 with or without Rangi Chase. I'd be more than happy to see a starting back line in 2013 of Kearney, Owen, Shenton, M. Gleeson, Webster, Gale & Ellis

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Fumper27 "Chase is appearing to be more hassle than he is worth. He seems to have already forgotten that Cas took him from his crappy life in Australia and put him on the RL map. I think things are looking good for 2013 with or without Rangi Chase. I'd be more than happy to see a starting back line in 2013 of Kearney, Owen, Shenton, M. Gleeson, Webster, Gale & Ellis'"



I think martin gleeson definatly comes under the heading of more hassle than he's worth personally and wouldn't have him anywhere near the team even if he is still up to it after so long out of the game (and at his age thats a very big if), i wouldnt want two inexperienced half backs as first choice either (we have very little experience in the side as it is (and with it looking like losing orr, youngy, hudson, jacko, jones and possibly snitch that's a problem that's going to get worse) especially when neither of them will ever be as good as chase. Webster would be wasted on the wing. as I've said i don't rate kearney apart from going forward so i don't think we would be much better off. I would rather give owen till the end of the season to settle into the role before making any decisions, (if milward hasn't driven him off by then). Going a little off topic can any one remember the last cas fullback that the fans liked playing there? owen, mathers, mcgoldrick,dorn, platt and rudder all got a lot of stick from fans when playing fullback. Last one that i can remember that was liked by the fans was donlan and he didn't play there that often iirc. The curse of the Castleford fullback shirt?

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: pyeman " Going a little off topic can any one remember the last cas fullback that the fans liked playing there? '"


Jason Flowers, Goeff Wraith, and the one and only Derek Edwards. I'm sure there lots more.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: bigalf "Jason Flowers, Goeff Wraith, and the one and only Derek Edwards. I'm sure there lots more.'"

You have to go back a few years though.

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: pyeman "You have to go back a few years though.'"


Trust me, I do!

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Quote: mdean "I actually think there is a worse outcome - Wigan actually reconsider their position knowing S Wane as we do through the media that any single step out of line is unacceptable on and off the field.

So now we have a petulant player who has burned some bridges, but nowhere for them to go - It is difficult to manage and unless you want to be like Manchini and accept that players are more important than you as a manager and your rules count for nothing - as a head coach do you not accept anyone disrespecting the club and its badge and play them without another word and the damage that does to the squad.

Not easy - but sport is a very fickle suitor and a statement here, handshake there and a good performance and most sins are absolved - look at Rooney for England and Man U....'"



Parables????

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Quote: bigalf "Jason Flowers, Goeff Wraith, and the one and only Derek Edwards. I'm sure there lots more.'"


I remember Donlan being pretty well liked as a FB too.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



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