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To be honest you should be wanting this Stadium to happen. What happens if you don't get yours built at least there will be an option to use the community stadium until you build your own thus keeping your superleague status. If it had been the other way round and we had to stay at Glasshoughton until we could find our own stadium then so be it i would say.

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Quote: Gronk! "Isn't it just 12000 capacity and 5000 covered seats the stadium criteria? If so it doesn't really matter if KR only have 3 sides if that is the case.'"


True, I was mearly pointing out that ours was a better stadium design wise - I don't know but I suspect the two older stands at HKR may be a bit lacking by modern standards - however how relevant that is I don't know.

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Why not just build one big ground, put Cas, Fev and Wakey together and....oh wait!!!!

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Quote: Gronk! "They don't have planning permission yet, they can apply for it now though, right?'"


Wrong, we already had outline planning permission granted by Wakefield Planning dept - it was then pulled in for a review by the DE which has now rubber stamped it.

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I think he meant FPP??

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Quote: kinleycat "I think he meant FPP??'"


Oh I see, did anyone say we had icon_confused.gif

But correct, no we don't.

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Quote: supercat "To be honest you should be wanting this Stadium to happen. What happens if you don't get yours built at least there will be an option to use the community stadium until you build your own thus keeping your superleague status. If it had been the other way round and we had to stay at Glasshoughton until we could find our own stadium then so be it i would say.'"


It would be interesting to see how the RFL dealt with bids in which both Wakey and Cas stated an intention to play at NM...especially for a 12 club league.

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A statement from Dickie.

www.castigers.com/article.php?id=2337

Nothing new to be said. I thought we were at an advanced stage with signing this supermarket deal? Also i thought Dickie had resigned?
A statement from Dickie.

www.castigers.com/article.php?id=2337

Nothing new to be said. I thought we were at an advanced stage with signing this supermarket deal? Also i thought Dickie had resigned?


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Bit of a disappointing response really, but there again I would not have expected anything else to be said at the moment. There is nothing in the statement that has not been said before, and the clock is ticking. We need some definite news asap and certainly before the end of the season. I suppose it depends on the supermarkets concerned and how fast they are moving.

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Taken from the report by the planning inspector in regards to why we should as RW suggested share GH:
"Whilst the Glasshoughton site may have planning permission there is no money to build it, nor any proposed enabling development. It is not viable or deliverable and no one suggests that it is, not even Castleford Tigers themselves"

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Quote: kinleycat "Taken from the report by the planning inspector in regards to why we should as RW suggested share GH

Wouldn't that have come from the PI, back before Cas had a deal with Opus and were between the Ben Bailey deal falling through and the Opus one being signed?

That puts the statement vastly out of date...but we can't tell some of the Neanderthals over on your board that, they're taking too much glee from it.

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hmmmm were are wakie gonna get the money i ask oh yes the owners of the ground

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Quote: mcmickeycas "hmmmm were are wakie gonna get the money i ask oh yes the owners of the ground'"


Dear me, how many times does this need explaining.

It's not Wakefield's Stadium, never will be. It will be built by the developer as part of a much larger development - it's basically a freebie to get the deal done. It will be run by a trust that has nothing to do with the club but who's responsibility is to push sport in WMDC. This was also done to secure planning consent and various forms of extra funding. Not sure if he trust will actually own it.

Trinity will be the anchor tenant with a 99 year lease (I believe may be wrong on that). Cas can play there I'm sure but they will always be the secondary tenant - how that would disadvantage you I'm not sure but I suspect it would.

Wakefield Trinity make no money from the development, our input was to ensure it got passed - the stadium at a reasonable rent is our reward.

That's the best I can do for now.

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Quote: Gronk! "Wouldn't that have come from the PI, back before Cas had a deal with Opus and were between the Ben Bailey deal falling through and the Opus one being signed?

That puts the statement vastly out of date...but we can't tell some of the Neanderthals over on your board that, they're taking too much glee from it.'"


Longer quote on Cas, which puts it into the correct time context i.e Dec 2011; You have a deal with Opus & are awaiting an retail partner to join the group. After inspection of the facts presented to him (RW actually contributed to the opposition & the inspector visited WR & GH site- may have done more harm than good with retrospect) the inspector has made judgments & given some damming statements.

Quote: Gronk! "Castleford Tigers wish to pursue a retail scheme at the Wheldon Road site, but that is out of centre and at best problematic. Even so as Mr Francis noted that site alone could not generate significant revenue to fund a stadium let alone the lengthy new road link. Where would the rest come from even if a retail scheme came forward? The evidence is that it is unlikely, as the Tigers’ own announcement makes clear. The site would also increase travel distances for Wakefield fans.'"


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Quote: Gronk! "Wouldn't that have come from the PI, back before Cas had a deal with Opus and were between the Ben Bailey deal falling through and the Opus one being signed?

That puts the statement vastly out of date...but we can't tell some of the Neanderthals over on your board that, they're taking too much glee from it.'"

Im sure you're right gronk, but if you accept it to be true, it means prior to whatever deal is in the pot currently, you were despite the pontifcations of some, you were heading nowhere.
That was not the view of your CEO, as for the deal now, I have no idea if that puts you further down the track than back then.
By fullys optimistic valuation you are looking at £5m for WR that leaves you well short of initial valuations and therefore well short of GH as it was touted.
Maybe this had something to do with the rumours of a coup, maybe the scales have finally fallen from the eyes of some people in Cas and they have other plans closer to home.
All I know is that was the view of an independent expert who had nothing to fain from bad mouthing Cas Tigers.
Maybe instead of believing RW it's time to rise up and oust him, because I would see nothing joyous if you were to falter.

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