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| Quote: bren2k "
You know, you really are starting to get annoying. It's bordering on harassment.
How is that putting a positive spin on anything? I've not defended Cas nor have I defended Millward. I did say there is two sides to every argument and rather than believing what one person says, I'd listen to both sides.
He wasn't first choice full-back, fact. Wakefield did come sniffing, fact, hence why he's currently in your side. I didn't mention what happened around the situation between those two points as I don't know, nor do you for that matter. The only people that truly know are RM and IM.
Either you grow up or please just stop posting on this forum. You're ruining the proper discussion.
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| Quote: bren2k "I was stood near Millward when Mathers scored one past your lot by the way - he had a face like a blistered pi55pot; wish I could have got a picture.'"
Dont know many coaches that do smile when a try is scored against them? And in reference to your post earlier, on what grounds would RM have been able to take Castleford to a tribunal(constructive dismissal)?
He was still getting paid wasn't he? I wish my employer would pay me and tell me not to turn up to work
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| Quote: stevem "U]
Dont know many coaches that do smile when a try is scored against them? And in reference to your post earlier, on what grounds would RM have been able to take Castleford to a tribunal(constructive dismissal)?
He was still getting paid wasn't he? I wish my employer would pay me and tell me not to turn up to work
That was my point really - I said I didn't particularly approve of him playing out his grievances in the media and the comment about a tribunal was intended to highlight that he wouldn't actually have a case.
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| Quote: bren2k "
you are the one who puts spin on the last bit on your every post...
its usually cheap dig , cowardly comment or just a silly remark to try and get people to bite
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| Quote: Fully "You know, you really are starting to get annoying. It's bordering on harassment.
How is that putting a positive spin on anything? I've not defended Cas nor have I defended Millward. I did say there is two sides to every argument and rather than believing what one person says, I'd listen to both sides.
He wasn't first choice full-back, fact. [sizeWakefield did come sniffing[/size, fact, hence why he's currently in your side. I didn't mention what happened around the situation between those two points as I don't know, nor do you for that matter. The only people that truly know are RM and IM.
Either you grow up or please just stop posting on this forum. You're ruining the proper discussion.'"
What makes you think we come sniffing? I wasn’t aware that was factual. From following events on twitter and what was said in the media all we know is Millward simply didn’t want him in his team or even training for what ever reason. This was made clear to his agent who touted him around, we only became interested when we realised you was that desperate to off load that your still paying half his wages. So in reality he wasn’t a player that we were that desperate to sign but the deal on the table was to good to turn down.
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| Quote: bren2k "That was my point really - I said I didn't particularly approve of him playing out his grievances in the media and the comment about a tribunal was intended to highlight that he wouldn't actually have a case.'"
You said quote.......... "Having said that, I'm not a terrific fan of these disputes being played out in the media; if he wants to take action against Cas for constructive dismissal, perhaps he should have a word with Comrade Wilkin?"
Not how I read your bit regards taking action against Cas, you suggest that he doesn't talk to the media and to instead involve a Union? No one else mentioned ''dismissal but yourself. He wasnt dismissed he was told he didnt figure in the new coaches plans.
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| I feel sorry for Mathers.
The same thing happened to Newton when basil arrived at Wigan, after everything he had done for our club.
There were countless other rumours about how the players were treated. I hope he has adapted his style for Cas, but i fear he probably hasn't.
Bad times for cas.
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| Quote: stevem "You said quote.......... "Having said that, I'm not a terrific fan of these disputes being played out in the media; if he wants to take action against Cas for constructive dismissal, perhaps he should have a word with Comrade Wilkin?"
Not how I read your bit regards taking action against Cas, you suggest that he doesn't talk to the media and to instead involve a Union? No one else mentioned ''dismissal but yourself. He wasnt dismissed he was told he didnt figure in the new coaches plans.'"
It was a joke, illustrating the fact that he's spoken to a journalist instead of his union, which makes it plainly obvious that he knows doesn't have a case against Cas, other than a gripe about the way he perceives he was treated.
I've said many times in the past that I think it's a mistake to take a players description of these kind of situations as gospel - there are two sides to every story and in these days of greedy agents, usually three; all parties should, in my view, handle their disputes privately and not speak about them in the media.
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| Quote: bren2k "It was a joke, illustrating the fact that he's spoken to a journalist instead of his union, which makes it plainly obvious that he knows doesn't have a case against Cas, other than a gripe about the way he perceives he was treated.
I've said many times in the past that I think it's a mistake to take a players description of these kind of situations as gospel - there are two sides to every story and in these days of greedy agents, usually three; all parties should, in my view, handle their disputes privately and not speak about them in the media.'"
Can i just add that slating a player in a public forum should also not be the 'done thing' until all the fact's are known. Otherwise i agree 100%.
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| Iwould believe mathers 100% as i have first hand experience of the millward treatment, at a previous club he coached at he did exactly the same thing to a young up and coming player who after a season and a half of abuse walked away from the club he had been at 8 yrs ( from being 14 ), what would worry me now if i was a cas fan is who will be next
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| So, when Keith Mason gets exactly the same treatment from, TM, it is strength and imposing himself and the right thing to do to make sure there are no exceptions to the Team Way. In this instance, other than a beautifully played PR campaign on Twitter by the player, there is no difference, but most people seem to be thinking Basil is a plum and going to be the ruination of the club, the town and probably the world, I wonder if he had a hand in the Greek economy??????
This is tres boring - If we get to 10 games in, we have won 6, Richie Owen has been MOTM a couple of times and we haven't had a tonking, the people weighing in to Millward now will be wanting to marry him or have him cannonised and it will be Richie Mather-Who - FACT.
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| Quote: mdean "
This is tres boring - If we get to 10 games in, we have won 6, Richie Owen has been MOTM a couple of times and we haven't had a tonking, the people weighing in to Millward now will be wanting to marry him or have him cannonised and it will be Richie Mather-Who - FACT.'"
I would doubt it considering most are not Cas fans.
It'll be: "You may have started well but you've had a few easy games, wait till Chase gets injured, Millward will ruin your club mark my words, all goes downhill from here." Etc.
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| Quote: Fully "
It'll be
A bit like last season then
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| Quote: financialtimes "A bit like last season then
Zing!
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| Quote: financialtimes "A bit like last season then
Indeed.
I believe the phrase "like a broken record" comes to mind.
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