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Quote: Georgie Best on a Bloomer "Yup. He's got me started. Sorry
You ruin every discussion about the stadium Georgie, with your childish sniping...

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Quote: bren2k "You ruin every discussion about the stadium Georgie, with your childish sniping...'"


TBH if it wasn't for you Bren with your constant encouragement and support, I'd kill myself.

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Thank you my darling.

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Quote: Georgie Best on a Bloomer "TBH if it wasn't for you Bren with your constant encouragement and support, I'd kill myself.'"


Don't let me get in your way old chum... icon_wink.gif

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Quote: bren2k "Don't let me get in your way old chum...
Just think... I could come back and haunt you....

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Quote: G.Price Fan Club "Jesus Christ, I only made a passing comment.

The tension on here is palpable.

Bridge Street was the one that I can recall, my original point was it's far from as straight as put in a OPP and get 15M, Tescos still have to choose WR- then worry about the problems of the planning system.

Hoping? - I hope you get one, always have.
Scared? - Of what? CT?
Maybe me but who said anything about being scared?? is that your paranoia coming out

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Yesterdays Pont and Cas Express carried another article about the negative impact an 'out of town' retail development on WR would have on the town centre shops.
It seems to me the definition of 'out of town' must be dependant upon the size of town (and/or it's resident's spacial awareness/mobility) because everyday thousands of people walk a hell of a lot further around Leeds than the distance between say Cas library and the ground. Also the number of people who park at/around the ground on matchdays as opposed to walking from the town centre or further afield must be a very small minority.
I accept that the route along WR may not be sufficiently attractive to encourage a stroll up/down it but for the most part it is a waterfront so not beyond major improvement. Furthermore, looking at a significant number of locals Opus may wish to support their PP bid by arguing the health benefits of the exercise involved in getting to the store(s).
Seriously though I am less concerned that WR will lose out to another site (the traffic implications elsewhere could be even greater) than that the development just won't happen at all because of commercial opposition.

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Quote: smoking monkey "Seriously though I am less concerned that WR will lose out to another site (the traffic implications elsewhere could be even greater) than that the development just won't happen at all because of commercial opposition.'"


Local shop owners will always make a big noise about any development that they perceive as a threat, particularly in this financial climate. I lived in Sheffield when Meadowhall was built and the indigenous shopkeepers were virtually demonstrating in the streets to halt progress on that particular circle of hell. As we all know, it didn't make one iota of difference in the end, although it probably slowed things down.

Still, I feel your pain; we went through a similar process with NM last year and it does seem that the breadth and scope of objections are what saw it end up at PI.

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Quote: bren2k "Local shop owners will always make a big noise about any development that they perceive as a threat, particularly in this financial climate. I lived in Sheffield when Meadowhall was built and the indigenous shopkeepers were virtually demonstrating in the streets to halt progress on that particular circle of hell. As we all know, it didn't one iota of difference in the end, although it probably slowed things down.

Still, I feel your pain; we went through a similar process with NM last year and it does seem that the breadth and scope of objections are what saw it end up at PI.'"

On a much scaled down version, businesses at Busy Corner on Barnsley Road are up in arms over the way Tesco has slipped under the planning radar and is busy converting the Foresters pub into a Tesco Express. So that'll be goodbye to the bakery, the grocers, the off-license and many other local shops.

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I just cannot understand why any of the major retailers would want to build a high quality brand new supermarket on a dead end road like WR. It basically goes no where and would get absolutely no passing trade whatsoever. Like any major retailer, supermarkets work on footfall (ie. number of people coming through the entrance doors) and I can't see how it would work.

Aren't Opus supposed to be making the full planning application during October, last day of the month on Monday. Personally I just can't see it getting of the ground at all.

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WR takes you to Airdale, have you ever been out of Chequerfield??

So it sits right inbetween Cas and Airdale and is easier to get to than Asda, sorry what was your point again??

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Quote: Ponterflfan "I just cannot understand why any of the major retailers would want to build a high quality brand new supermarket on a dead end road like WR. It basically goes no where and would get absolutely no passing trade whatsoever. Like any major retailer, supermarkets work on footfall (ie. number of people coming through the entrance doors) and I can't see how it would work.

Aren't Opus supposed to be making the full planning application during October, last day of the month on Monday. Personally I just can't see it getting of the ground at all.'"

Didn't the press release at the the end of August/beginning of September say two to three months?

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: Ponterflfan " It basically goes no where and would get absolutely no passing trade whatsoever. '"


Re Wheldon Road - as Binks said.

Supermarkets of the size proposed don't have much, if any, reliance on "passing trade".

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Quote: bigalf "Re Wheldon Road - as Binks said.

Supermarkets of the size proposed don't have much, if any, reliance on "passing trade".'"


I did wonder myself about the concept of 'footfall' - I used to walk to Hillards in Wakey with me mam, but that was in 1978!

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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall" "I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg



Quote: Theboyem "Didn't the press release at the the end of August/beginning of September say two to three months?'"


A 2 to 3 month delay from the end of August.

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Quote: binks "WR takes you to Airdale, have you ever been out of Chequerfield??

So it sits right inbetween Cas and Airdale and is easier to get to than Asda, sorry what was your point again??'"



Firstly, I don't live in Chequerfield and I would have thought that the inhabitants of Airedale and Fryston would look much further than the local Aldi or Lidl.

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