I agree with what you are saying.

But the Leeds try and the Cas no tries were totally different plays. I think some of you have a problem with the Jjb try? Leeds fired 2 short flat balls close to the defensive line. The ablett one might have been forward? The Jjb one was flat, I'm not sure if it was forward. But they are shot, sharp flat passes cloth to the defence. They are really hard to rule on for the refs. The long looping passes To the wingers are much easier to rule on and sometimes look forward even when they go back! The Cas passes fall into the second type and looked forward, the second was about 1.5 meters forward.

You can't say the refs let Leeds go and pull Cas as they are totally different plays!

Leeds would have beaten Wigan by 20 points a few weeks ago if silverwood hadn't hammered leeds for the same as he did Cas. He's very keen on pulling that play right now. A bit of thinking from Cas prematch might have helped Cas avoid what happend! Leeds left out their go to play(the same one cas got pulled for) as they new silverwood would be all over it! Clever by Leeds, not so by Cas.

Distance doesn't make a difference IMO. They were both 50/50 and Leeds got the rub of the green in both decisions and both were costly for Cas.

Of course the distance matters? At hi speed close to the defensive line the short flat ball is really hard to rule on. The ref and touchies get very little time to see the flight of the ball or get a good angle to view it. The long looping cut out pass to the winger is much easier to see as it's close to the touch judge and the ball is in flight for an age compared to a shot sharp flat ball.

You must know that? or at least be able to use reason and logic to accept that?

The long looping cut out pass is Leeds go to play! But they left it out of this weeks game plan as silverdud is hammering teams for it every week! As he did 4 times in the first half against Leeds when Leeds played Wigan a few weeks back. As I said clever Leeds, good preparation. Not so clever Cas. Matterson missed a trick there.

So forward passes over a metre are allowed and forward passes over ten metres aren't,I get it now.

I never said that. Totally didn't get my post at all.
No neither are allowed pal. The passes over a meter are much tougher to see and rule on than the long passes!

twisting anothers point of view is never a good luck.

Let's get back to seeing all passes go backwards. Not level, not flat, not flat with momentum....backwards and backwards only. Until this happens, every game in the league is going to be marred by such decisions week in week out.

But isn't that what you implied,and if they're tougher to rule on lets ban all short passing within our game or legalise forward passes,that way the referee would never have to make a judgement call regarding them.

Surely the course of longer passes are more susceptible to being moved by wind, thus making them harder to judge too?

Come off it, whether it's 1 metre or 10 metres a forward pass is a forward pass. Flat, short passes are more likely to get pulled up I find because most of the time players are running at a slow pace - the runner is the one with the speed/impact.

No I didn't imply that. I told it how it is. You are just talking nonsensical rubbish. ban all short passes indeed?

The short flat ball has been a part of our game for over 100 years. Cas get one 60/50 call go against them and you lot want the rules changing. You would think the Leeds pass was a me forward? It was debatable at best.

No, they were both 50/50 calls. But if you deny one, you have to deny the other. You can't have one rule for one team and one rule for another, regardless of distance.

yeah if the wind is strong that would make it worse too.


I don't agree with that at all. Obviously one call has got you all fired up. I would say get over it, but it's not gonna happen

It wasn't one call, was it though. It was three - 2 for us and 1 for you.

Oh, and there was another blatant forward pass in the 2nd half when you were returning a ball and I think it was Watkins and Webb were together about a metre apart and one of them chucked the ball to other so blatantly forward yet that was missed too.

I ve explained it. You just haven't got enough logic and reason to get past your anger, sadness, how gutted you are? I'm not sure which one it is?

This isn't a reasonable debate. You just think Cas were hard done to and that's it for you.

Did you find Leeds fans moaning when silverwood disallowed 4 first half Leeds tries against Wigan a few weeks back for the same thing Cas did on Friday? No we didn't. You just take it on the chin.

You basically have sifted through my posts ignored the bits that you can't debate and come up with cas robbed.

Poor poor show pal. My 4 year old god daughter has better debating skills than you! And better rl knowledge by the looks of it.

I repeat Leeds got the wrong end of the stick against the pies a few weeks ago. Some you get some you don't. You need to get over it.

Explained what? All you've done is try to say that Leeds' try was fine is because it was over a shorter distance?

Yes, I think Cas were hard done to. And judging by the other posts across the majority of other forums, other people would tend to agree. You seem to take this as some anti-Leeds thing; it isn't. I'd be the same whether it was against Wigan, Leeds or Catalans. My point stands and if the referee cannot judge it then there are two touchjudges, who can view it too.

I'm not a regular reader of the Leeds forum, so no, I wouldn't have seen if people had moaned about the decisions. But that's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things as it's a different game. As for sifting through your posts, how can I sift through posts that are two/three lines long and making one point?

As for the insult at the bottom, if that's the best you can come up with then it would suggest YOU have the issues, not me. My RL knowledge is quite good, thank you very much.