Of the 3 looking at the chop i would say we have the best case

We have better crowds than wakey and salford
Better youth development than both
Better on field success in this franchise period than salford and equal (average league placing) to wakey
Less debt than wakey and salford
Less overseas players than wakey and salford

I've left grounds aside because all clubs beleive they are getting one now which should cancel each other out if true (though in our favour we will own ours and wakey will rent theres, not sure about salford).

2 million from council
6 million from ground sale
The rest from waystone, naming rights and grants.

hth

Don't even bother with him mate. He only posts on here about the stadium, trolling.

Other posters have commented but how are Bulls flying under the radar?

Not a clue. Bulls are going un-noticed because of past performances.

Personally i don't think any of the 1st division teams are good enough to replace either Cas or Wakey.

Sadly as it currently stands I think Widnes have more to offer than Wakie.

On what do you base those thoughts on?, a better stadium and er what else exactly.

I don't want to get into a slanging match, this is just my honest opinion as I see it. But Widnes do have a backer with considerable wealth too, rather than a bloke with an IVA to his name. I know this may change if and when Wakie find a new owner. But as it stands, at this point in time they are a better prospect. Yes, their team is not up to standards but they will have plenty of time to sort that if and when they get the nod.

Better youth academy, probably bigger crowds, able to spend the salary cap etc.

I think the one thing we can all agree is that the time for talk has been and gone.
The measuring contests are a thing of the past, now it's time for action.

Over to Sir Rodney and Jack Fulton, show us your cards!

The time for talking went three years ago. The next few weeks - and indeed months - will shape both clubs' futures.

Which is why we should have had "mutual support" for each others projects all along.
Convincing the public of Wakefield (and SL) that our derby days are worth keeping. We energize a whole region for those weekends, SL will be much poorer without it. This IMO comes from having separate grounds, with the fans putting on their "battle armour" and heading across the city to fight for local pride.

Does anyone think that throwing muck has got either of us anywhere?
IMO if we'd spent more time supporting and less time undermining we would both be much further on because of it. SL set out to divide and conqueror and to an extent we played right into their hands.

Quote: dickie mint "On what do you base those thoughts on?, a better stadium and er what else exactly.'" The owner of Widnes is very wealthy with excellent business connections. The owner of wakefield is in an IVA. Since Steve O'connor took over Widnes they have been financially sound. Recently posting a £1m profit ( www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -27179196/ ) In less than a year Wakefield have faced 2 winding up orders from HMRC. HTH.

Quote: dickie mint "On what do you base those thoughts on?, a better stadium and er what else exactly.'" The owner of Widnes is very wealthy with excellent business connections. The owner of wakefield is in an IVA. Since Steve O'connor took over Widnes they have been financially sound. Recently posting a £1m profit ( www.runcornandwidnesweeklynews.c ... -27179196/ ) In less than a year Wakefield have faced 2 winding up orders from HMRC. HTH.

Out of the 3 i would of said Wakey are nailed on to be relegated, but i saw some odds from the bookies the other day and was very surprised to see Cas as the favourites for the drop

A bookies in Wakefield by any chance ?