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If we sign nobody theyre not happy, if we sign somebody theyre not happy ffs

I think all the signing so far are good uns and will improve the team, even Fozzard.

we'll be OK

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: ambernotyeller "If we sign nobody theyre not happy, if we sign somebody theyre not happy ffs

I think all the signing so far are good uns and will improve the team, even Fozzard.

we'll be OK


I'm far from a glass half empty kind of guy, but that doent mean i always agree with what the club does, i think signing mathers was a mistake and his wage would have been far better spent on getting us a quality scrum half.

As for our other singings i'm very happy with fozzard, emmit and orr.

Youngquest is another liability i feel.

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Quote: pyeman "Whats wrong with my post? people have put posts up saying that he played well in the cc final i've put this this to balance the argument (could have added the wire v wigan game immediatly after he signed where he also had a terrible game). People seem to think we have signed a cracking fullback when we havent, we've signed a player with the same problems as mcgoldrick in defence with less quality in attack and that worries me.'"


Mathers may not offer as much in attack as Mcgoldrick but to say he has the same problems in defence is laughable...Mcgoldrick is one of the worst tacklers at the club!

In an idea world Owen would be our full back,and going down under for the four nations in October, but at the start of the season and raring to go the coach still wouldn't pick him there icon_evil.gif

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: duke street 10 "Mathers may not offer as much in attack as Mcgoldrick but to say he has the same problems in defence is laughable...Mcgoldrick is one of the worst tacklers at the club!

In an idea world Owen would be our full back,and going down under for the four nations in October, but at the start of the season and raring to go the coach still wouldn't pick him there
Mathers and mcgoldrick have missed nearly the same amount of tackles this season, and theres more to defence than tackling, mathers drops as many balls as mcgoldrick and is out of position alot of the time like mcgoldrick.

And bear in mind this is when he is being coached by a former international coach with alot of trophies under his belt and in a team of superstars who are usually on the front foot. He's going to be under alot more pressure at cas and wont be coached as well.

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Quote: pyeman "Mathers and mcgoldrick have missed nearly the same amount of tackles this season, and theres more to defence than tackling, mathers drops as many balls as mcgoldrick and is out of position alot of the time like mcgoldrick.

And bear in mind this is when he is being coached by a former international coach with alot of trophies under his belt and in a team of superstars who are usually on the front foot. He's going to be under alot more pressure at cas and wont be coached as well.'"


We will have to disagree,i would still fancy my chances of a one-on-one with Mcgoldrick five yards from the tryline,and i haven't played the game in years icon_wink.gif

Mind you it wouldn't surprise me if T.M plays Mathers at centre icon_eek.gif

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Mathers is a better player than McGoldrick - end of. He also won't cost us the amount of penalties McGoldrick does by his constant niggling and inability to know when to keep his mouth shut.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Cecil B "Mathers is a better player than McGoldrick - end of. He also won't cost us the amount of penalties McGoldrick does by his constant niggling and inability to know when to keep his mouth shut.'"


Thats your opinion and your entitled to it, my opinion is that mathers is going to be a signing on par with korkidas and rudder. The fact he has been surplus to requirments at his last 3 club tells its own story.

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Quote: pyeman "I'm far from a glass half empty kind of guy, but that doent mean i always agree with what the club does, i think signing mathers was a mistake and his wage would have been far better spent on getting us a quality scrum half.

As for our other singings i'm very happy with fozzard, emmit and orr.

Youngquest is another liability i feel.'"


Send him over the common we'll take anybody at the moment icon_smile.gif

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Quote: duke street 10 "We will have to disagree,i would still fancy my chances of a one-on-one with Mcgoldrick five yards from the tryline,and i haven't played the game in years
Don't be silly....Loose Forward for when Westy signs for Hull icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Mathers wasn't surplus to requirements, TS wanted him to stay but Richie didn't want to stay.

There are no stats for players holding up over the line, Richie has saved so many tries this season. Most wire fans given the choice would rather he had stayed.

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he will be the best fullback cas have had since steadman imo. ( also rated jason flowers in defence)

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: chissitt "Send him over the common we'll take anybody at the moment
If it was upto me you could have him chissitt.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Yed "Mathers wasn't surplus to requirements, TS wanted him to stay but Richie didn't want to stay.

There are no stats for players holding up over the line, Richie has saved so many tries this season. Most wire fans given the choice would rather he had stayed.'"


Did you not replace him with a much better fulback?

I'm not suprised he didnt want to stay if he would have to wait for hodgson to get injured before he got a game.

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Quote: pyeman "Did you not replace him with a much better fulback?

I'm not suprised he didnt want to stay if he would have to wait for hodgson to get injured before he got a game.'"


Hodgson is a better attacking fullback, that suits Wires game, Mathers is a better defensive fullback and marshalls the defensive line a lot better than Hodgson.

If you think he's naff you have been spending too much time with Wiganers. Both us and Leeds saw the good Richie Mathers, yeah he had a couple of brainfarts but so does every player and he's definitely saved us a lot more points than he's conceded. You'll see next season, you'll eat your words when he sures up your defence.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Yed "Hodgson is a better attacking fullback, that suits Wires game, Mathers is a better defensive fullback and marshalls the defensive line a lot better than Hodgson.

If you think he's naff you have been spending too much time with Wiganers. Both us and Leeds saw the good Richie Mathers, yeah he had a couple of brainfarts but so does every player and he's definitely saved us a lot more points than he's conceded. You'll see next season, you'll eat your words when he sures up your defence.'"


Hodgson is a much better defensive fullback, he one of the main reasons that hudds have had one of, if not the best defence for the last two years. The differance between hodgsons defence the other night and mathers was huge. You didnt see hodgson knocking on with his first touch which led to hsi team conceding did you, you didnt see hodson failing to stop a stand off crash over from short range despite having other defenders in support, you didnt see hodgson going completley the wrong way for the short kick which led to another try, you didnt see hodgson throw out an aweful pass that got intercepted to cost his team the game and end his clubs season.

I can assure you i dont spend any time with wiganers, i base my opinions on what i see, mathers hasnt been the same player since he left leeds and the fact that he is costing his team games despite being under far less pressure than he will be at cas and being far better coached than he will be at cas fills me with dread.

The only plus is that in 3 years he will be gone.

If you had swapped fullbacks the other night you would still be in the play offs

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