Would be funny if you did make the playoffs, 50 hairy Welsh women singing green grass of home at Headingley.

No more of a dope than the clown whofixed your game with a 6pm KO. But as for average attendance of 5000 + here goes

V Hull (good away following) - 6794
V Catalans - 6124
V Hudds 4127
V Cats (in cup) 1817 (where is the 6000 plus that watched the league game)
V Wigan (good awayfollowing) 6075
V Bradford 2979
v Wakefield 2837
V Wire (good away following and playing well this year)-5197
v Salford 2412
V Cas 1495
V Quins 1122

That is only 10 homegames plus cup so have missed a couple but they would have had to have been huge attendances to make it 5000+ as the above does noteven give you 4000.

Also seems to methat the better you are playing and the higher upthe table you gothe smaller your attendance!!!

The only game you're missing is Leeds, where they had an attendance of 10336 for opening day of season.

Average attendances is 4500 roughly with that added in.

Wonder how many of them were paying guests - and where are they now!!

My god two years in and only getting an average of 4.5 k, should kick us out now just in case we make the playoffs instead of you huh?

There was a bigger crowd at Hunslet V Workington last night (a match which was also televised).

Given your family connections in Red Hall how's the appeal going? (or do they not tell the cleaners that?)

I can assure you my family member is not a cleaner!

Cleaners do not go to the world cup for free or do family members like myself get into every game in the four nations series last year without paying a penny.

However all I was pointing out was that free tickets are given away as a way of attracting new support, a common way is to go into schools and give free tickets to the kids however they need to be accompanied by a paying adult. Also any local junior clubs are given tickets or passes to get in for free. It is common practice. Free tickets are not just for directors - staff - and players family.

As for our appeal my family member would not discuss confidential matters outside of work. However any club is free to contact Red Hall for ideas on how to develop their support base

The reason I brought it up was that it's all well and good swelling your crowd with offers but how many of the people taking up the offer will return as paying fans.

Not many judging by their dwindling number of fans - if you look at their last 6 home games their average attendance is less than 2700!! How on earth can they afford to pay the number of aussies they have in their team on gate receipts of that magnitude!!! It is a good job they had attendances at their earlier games that were over 6000 - but wait I bet they were away fans!!

Any way as for comments about top 8 - it is who is in there at the end of the season that counts not now - we will see!!

Discounts for schools yes, Wrexham saver special offers for some games, free tickets no. The only free ticket i've had this year was the Crusaders game at Headingley!