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39793_1491679334.jpg "Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg |
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Have you seen the plans?
Increase in woodland and habitat for amphibious creatures, increased (industrial) drainage system, ban on HGV access through Methley and it's access road, strict clamping regulations in residential areas during RL games. As you can tell the plan is very well padded, on recommendation of the council.
But lets think about the site at the moment. On the whole scrub, rife with fly tippers, land which the council have always said "will be developed sooner or later" & is due for reclassification very soon.
The vast majority of the claims made are waffer thin and have been well thought through (and are continuing to be amended to accommodate recommendations from Yorkshire Ecology) and will greatly improve the area in the long run, for the benefit of all within our Merry City.
However i think the single biggest silver bullet for the NIMBY's is the feasibility study that the council conducted during the Thornes fiasco. This document was commissioned by the council and cost thousands, after over a year of studying sites across the city RSDriver found this to be the only suitable site for a stadium in the area. Hence the council approaching the Yorkcourt in the first place.
(While we cried about Thornes many other fans laughed, how ironic if the deciding blow in granting permission came from a document commissioned under the "Thornesgate" ear)'"
So, are you saying that the council gave the nod to Yourcourt that they would have no objection to developing 250 acres of Green Belt land ??
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| Quote: bigalf "So, are you saying that the council gave the nod to Yourcourt that they would have no objection to developing 250 acres of Green Belt land ??'"
Green belt for how long?
It has always been on the whole brown field. The land has to be reclassified every 10 years, why would a council let a suitably placed large site of mainly scrub sit undeveloped forever. This area is hardly The North York Moors nor even Notton, this is Newmarket colliery were talking about!
I believe the council were always waiting for the right time to develop this site, hence the classification of some of it "green belt", this IMO (and the VAST majority of residents of Wakefield) is that chance.
The one thing everyone who lives round here can agree on is that we have some stunning areas of natural beauty, can anyone say this is one of those? The creation of this development will go a hell of a long way to the creation of much better quality "green field" and habitat.
And as far as the residents of Methley are concerned, they have plenty of green field land on their side of the motorway, so the "green lung" is far from gone.
If they were brave enough for a public debate with the developers and their associates i dare say they wouldn't have a leg to stand on after they had they points fully explained, as they clearly missed them the first time.
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39793_1491679334.jpg "Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg |
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Green belt for how long?
It has always been on the whole brown field. The land has to be reclassified every 10 years, why would a council let a suitably placed large site of mainly scrub sit undeveloped forever. This area is hardly The North York Moors nor even Notton, this is Newmarket colliery were talking about!
I believe the council were always waiting for the right time to develop this site, hence the classification of some of it "green belt", this IMO (and the VAST majority of residents of Wakefield) is that chance.
The one thing everyone who lives round here can agree on is that we have some stunning areas of natural beauty, can anyone say this is one of those? The creation of this development will go a hell of a long way to the creation of much better quality "green field" and habitat.
And as far as the residents of Methley are concerned, they have plenty of green field land on their side of the motorway, so the "green lung" is far from gone.
If they were brave enough for a public debate with the developers and their associates i dare say they wouldn't have a leg to stand on after they had they points fully explained, as they clearly missed them the first time.'"
I wish Wakey all the best getting a stadium, but I have to say that the whole of the land is shown on the UDP plan as Green Belt and was classified as that in 2003 and may be re-classified in 2013 . I can understand why there is so much opposition. The land does not have to be rolling meadows and woodland to be Green Belt.
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| Quote: bigalf "I wish Wakey all the best getting a stadium, but I have to say that the whole of the land is shown on the UDP plan as Green Belt and was classified as that in 2003 and may be re-classified in 2013 . I can understand why there is so much opposition. The land does not have to be rolling meadows and woodland to be Green Belt.'"
Do you know how much opposition is in place ? seems very little from what i can gather.
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| Quote: t drednowts is cumin! "read my post again.i meant that the author of the letter you linked in the y.e.p was unlikely to be the person who started this thread due to the writing style and rugby references. I,m happy to apologise for presuming he was a cas fan, however if your attitude is typical i,m sure he will have a very receptive audience on here!
Tell me what my attitude is then ?
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| Quote: Speedy "Tell me what my attitude is then ?'"
i shall return friday at 10pm
You really do seem to have a serious problem accepting that other people are entitled to an opinion. Deal with it.
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Have you seen the plans?
Increase in woodland and habitat for amphibious creatures, increased (industrial) drainage system, ban on HGV access through Methley and it's access road, strict clamping regulations in residential areas during RL games. As you can tell the plan is very well padded, on recommendation of the council.
But lets think about the site at the moment. On the whole scrub, rife with fly tippers, land which the council have always said "will be developed sooner or later" & is due for reclassification very soon.
The vast majority of the claims made are waffer thin and have been well thought through (and are continuing to be amended to accommodate recommendations from Yorkshire Ecology) and will greatly improve the area in the long run, for the benefit of all within our Merry City.'"
There's still going to be urbanisation of an area on a pretty large scale. Is the industrial drainage system sustainable i.e. does it delay the release of water back to the environment at a rate similar to that of vegetation? It's well known that surface water drainage increases the level of peak discharge in the river, and reduces the delay in it being reached during/after rainfall and as a result, can lead to flooding. In the meantime, how long will it take for the increase in woodland to become established?
Naturally anybody down river of this development may have concerns, surely you can see that. There doesn't however, seem to be much effort being made in raising awareness of the precautions taken to avoid these issues given the links posted in this thread.
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| Quote: Bonzo "There's still going to be urbanisation of an area on a pretty large scale. Is the industrial drainage system sustainable i.e. does it delay the release of water back to the environment at a rate similar to that of vegetation? It's well known that surface water drainage increases the level of peak discharge in the river, and reduces the delay in it being reached during/after rainfall and as a result, can lead to flooding. In the meantime, how long will it take for the increase in woodland to become established?
Naturally anybody down river of this development may have concerns, surely you can see that. There doesn't however, seem to be much effort being made in raising awareness of the precautions taken to avoid these issues given the links posted in this thread.'"
Yes, SUDS are to be incorporated into the design.
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41904.jpg "Therefore, surely nothing in life is to be feared, only understood. Apart from getting shanked at the cash machine!"
I love this city,
this is my town.
We get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud.
i love my city
this is my town,
we get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud:41904.jpg |
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| Any other concerns for any tigers fans living in that area???
At the end of the day 15,000+ residents wouldn't have signed up to support the scheme if nobody wanted it.
This is the future of our sporting region, the desire is there and more importantly it has a funding package IN PLACE. not even Saints can say that and they are much further down the road than either of us or Salford.
The population need jobs.
The region needs sporting facilities.
The council need the additional income (tourism, corporate and rate taxes ect).
And it won't cost the council a penny. That or a scub land field??
Put yourself in the councils position, there is only 1 possible outcome of this application. Even if it gets bounced to the cabinet all parties are in favor of economic regeneration, which is exactly what this is. This project WILL go through.
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "Any other concerns for any tigers fans living in that area???
At the end of the day 15,000+ residents wouldn't have signed up to support the scheme if nobody wanted it.
This is the future of our sporting region, the desire is there and more importantly it has a funding package IN PLACE. not even Saints can say that and they are much further down the road than either of us or Salford.
The population need jobs.
The region needs sporting facilities.
The council need the additional income (tourism, corporate and rate taxes ect).
And it won't cost the council a penny. That or a scub land field??
Put yourself in the councils position, there is only 1 possible outcome of this application. Even if it gets bounced to the cabinet all parties are in favor of economic regeneration, which is exactly what this is. This project WILL go through.'"
I fail to see why you all are coming on here and assuming its cas fans that are complaining, i havent seen one objection posted to that effect, The only posts are observations thats all, I suggest you put your efforts into going down to the people who live down there and talking them into what you believe should happen. I dont care where your stadium goes, I dont give a flying fec about what will happen to the roads around that area or in methley. So stop getting touchy and stop convincing yourselves it is cas fans.
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| Quote: Sandal Wild Cat "At the end of the day 15,000+ residents wouldn't have signed up to support the scheme if nobody wanted it.'"
Did they sign up in support of a STADIUM or full BUSINESS PARK, massive difference.
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41904.jpg "Therefore, surely nothing in life is to be feared, only understood. Apart from getting shanked at the cash machine!"
I love this city,
this is my town.
We get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud.
i love my city
this is my town,
we get a week out, without a doubt,
gunna sing it out loud:41904.jpg |
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| Both. again read the documentation; the original petition states that "the facilities can not happen in isolation from the rest of the project". People knew it was going to be cross financed by the creation of a larger development all along.
Anyway enough on here, if you want to chat more about it i suggest we do it on our board. This is becoming drawn out and think it may be better placed on our board where it wont detract from the original thread. (not that i don't enjoy your board, I'm on here as much as my own tbf!).
(oh and i wasn't insinuating that all posters on the planning board were cas fans, i was only asking if cas fans in Methley had any more questions to ask someone who had studied the plans in a fair bit of detail.)
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