How would that change even if it was a ' rebel ' league , they'd still nick your best

This is true, then the R.F.U will try and pinch the best super league players


But is the garden rosy in the top league?, we have yet to have a sell out at wembley for the C.C final, the grand final last year wasn't a sell out,the magic weekend will never sell out while its held in edinburgh and is pretty pointless in my opinion.

We are as far away from beating the aussies as ever. They should be looking into all these rather than cutting the league,maybe they have been listening to jamie peacock abit too much.

I think the superleague should just have leeds, saints, bradford, wigan, quins, wrexham, cat. as the league is bent in their faver!! and the rest should form there own league based on fairness and how good the team is not the ground or the fan base!! Viva La Revolution

I do enjoy it just the same, the entertainment value is fantastic

Just seems there's far less at stake and people are far less interested.

One reason for suggesting a reduction to 12 teams was the top players wanting to play less games. If we cut to 12 teams and all play each other home and away plus the edinburgh fixture then that's 23 rounds. At the minute we play 27 rounds. If the top players are whining about playing 4 extra games per season with the current training and conditioning they get then there is something wrong with them somewhere in my opinion. Maybe we should have a more australian type fixture list where you don't play everyone home and away every year? That would allow more teams into the SL without overloading the fixture list.

How do you work that out?

Yeah and they will all take a reduction in wages to balance the books won't they

Lots a fans have made sacrifices in the current climate to attend games but the players won't take less money for less games will they?

SL needs to EXPAND not contract IMO.

I agree and if we adopt the current australian idea regarding fixtures(an idea that was in actual fact used in this country many years ago)then we could increase the teams in SL without affecting the number of rounds played that much. If we had a 16 team SL then a team could play 9 of their opponents twice,home and away(18 games)the other six only once either home or away(total 24 games)plus one edinburgh fixture. That's 25 rounds with 16 teams in the SL. Sounds okay to me! The edinburgh fixture list would also be evened up with 4 matches on each day.

Surely everyone's a winner with that?

How can that even remotely be described as a fair league? It makes a mockery of a competition.

Not that cracking on maths?

If you take that 6 or 7 current overseas players out of the teams, thats a minimum of 84 players out of the competition. If you reduce clubs by 2 then you can take 40 off those 84. Where are we finding the other 44 adequate youngsters to come through? we don't have them now, so why would we in future even if we stayed at 14 clubs, like the other poster suggested?

the problem is , everyone is brainwashed with the idea that soopo doopa league is the be all and end all. its not
rugby league was around before murdochs money and will still be around when the plug is pulled, what we have to worry about is how many clubs have survived after this brainless expansion experiment and how many will bankrupt themselves chasing this dream.
pah to new grounds, pah to expansion

god help rugby league

How many people play RL in this country?