They're probably right to be fair; Lee Smith's defence, commitment and discipline are no where near the levels that Shenny produces!!

Possibly another example of fans thinking that if you don't play for a top 4 team then you aren't good enough. Wouldn't be the first time and certainly wont be the last.

Loiners? well what do you expect far too many of them are quick to be critical of anything to do with cas. As for the hudds fans probably a fair few of them are still learning rl.

Lee smith cant score without the ball anymore than shenton can, smith would hvae also leaked a 2 or 3 tries and we would have lost the game.

Like i say these people are cearly idiots.

Absolutely spot on, if Lee Smith had played instead of Shenny, the turnstiles will have been open in our defence

Phil Clarke highlighted a period of play from the Aussie game in the build up to Saturdays game. In it he highlighted the fact that England made the wrong decision in attack. Shenton was wide open and had the ball gone to him he would have either gone in himself or been able to put his winger in.

Highlights a common thread in Englands play - they don't like giving the ball to Shenny!

How many of our tries have been scored by the backs?

vs FranceSmith, Myler 2, Sinfield, Hall, Briscoe

vs AustraliaSmith

vs NZFox 2

Out of 12 tries we've scored, 6 have come from the backs, 4 of them down the right wing, pretty much showing that the play hardly even comes down Englands left side. Two or three times the ball should have moved out left on Saturday and instead it went back to the middle. No conspiracy, I just think too many players are either backing themselves (hence 3 tries from the halves) or bringing it in towards the forwards and half-backs because that's the given gameplan - keep it tight (whereas Cas are more likely to shift the ball wider sooner).

Shenny will be playing RL next year dont know who for but will be playing RL Smith wont, so why have him picked, play who you feel needs the experiance now... and lets face it after the display he had with Mcguire he had to not be picked and after the Saturday performance by the other guys, he shouldnt get in for the final.

Stuff playing for experience, play the players who give you the best chance of winning.

For me, that means the same 17 as did for New Zealand, injury permitting.

i thought that was what i was sort of trying to imply in my post but yes i agree the 17 who won New Zealand deserve and earned their final appearance.

Really? you didnt know he's a cas player for next year?

Huddersfield fans have a cheek making commenting about centres arent they?

And as for leeds, they have signed an aussie hardly anybody has heard of to replace smith, their academy must be abit thin on three quarters.

Shenton & hall look to be forming a useful partnership down the left side, stick with it!

That was a strange post you replied to.

tb


(sorry Cas mods for stepping in)

Ha ha! I'm going to watch that game tonight now...

Exactley what i was thinking too mate.

sorry this season he will be a cas player, but when is his contract up?