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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"I was thinking more of this case in particular, assuming what is suspected is true.
Given what we 'know', Solomona's contract did end when he failed to report for work and told Castleford he didn't intend to do so. He didn't consider himself to be employed by Castleford (and therefore his contract has ended) so there is no requirement for Castleford as the (previous) employer to follow any procedures at all because he is no longer an employee.
Put simply though, the fact seems to be that he has committed the repuditory breach of contract at some point. Castleford are entitled to seek compensation for their financial loss.'"
We don't know Solomona's contract has ended at all. In fact, Cas are quite clearly and explicitly saying that the contract is still in place.
It does not follow that because Solomona no longer considered himself employed by Castleford Tigers that his contract has ended.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"We don't know Solomona's contract has ended at all. In fact, Cas are quite clearly and explicitly saying that the contract is still in place.
It does not follow that because Solomona no longer considered himself employed by Castleford Tigers that his contract has ended.'"
I'm not sure Castleford have said this since Solomona didn't report for the beginning of pre-season.
As you say though, we don't actually "know" much.
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| How do you calculate the consequential loss suffered by Cas?
Hopefully its more than the 40k a year they were allegedly paying him - no wonder he wanted off if that is true
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"How do you calculate the consequential loss suffered by Cas?
Hopefully its more than the 40k a year they were allegedly paying him - no wonder he wanted off if that is true'"
I would imagine it will be guided by:
The value of the three offers Castleford received and rejected.
The value of the "extra" salary Solomona earned after signing a contract extension, which enhanced his salary on the basis he would remain an employee for longer (up to the end of the 2018 season).
Loss of direct player sponsorship. Castleford had an agreement with a company to be the matchday sponsor for Solomona which will now be lost.
Given these, I imagine it will be 150-200k (as a guess).
Castleford are also likely to claim legal costs if they win.
I hope Solomona has a lot of money saved up, or he may find any increase in his salary is being paid to Castleford for the next couple of years.
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| Solomona is suspended for not turning up to pre-season training and is still a Castleford player.
The argument that he can just retire and take up union will be contested in court, Rugby League is not just another sport a precendent has been set with many examples of transfer fees been payed between union and league clubs in the past and with a £300,000 offer rejected a judge will decide whether Sale and Solomona are being underhanded.
They don't have to have done anything illegal by current law ,this is a test case backed by the RFL and quite frankly I would expect SKY would take a keen interest in this case too considering the implications to the sport that they have spent billions on securing the exclusive rights to.
Maybe Sale still think they are taking on little old Cas.
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| Quote tigersteve="tigersteve"I wouldn't believe everything you read, he signed a new contract last year, my guess would be he will be on a fair bit more than that now.'"
Fair enough.
Would have been a fantastic bit of business by Cas if true.
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| I wonder what Phil Clarke's view on all this?. If his brother,Solomona & Sale are successful in all this get ready for more "retirements" of young, talented players in S.L.
R.U clubs will have a hit list drawn up already mark my words.
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| Quote duke street 10="duke street 10"I wonder what Phil Clarke's view on all this?. If his brother,Solomona & Sale are successful in all this get ready for more "retirements" of young, talented players in S.L.
R.U clubs will have a hit list drawn up already mark my words.'"
So would I. He's never afraid to express an opinion. The actions of his brother could have serious long term consequences for the quality of the sport he commentates on.
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| I agree. They can throw money at all manner of players without the cost of a transfer and if it doesn't work out let them retire back from Union into League.
We wouldn't be able to ban them from our sport as we need all the stars we can get.
What other sport would tolerate Willie Mason for example?
We need names to try and sell the game.
Long term I can see the RFU having a plan to absorb the RFL and place us as a similar offshoot of their game such as 7s.
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| Quote Jimmythecuckoo="Jimmythecuckoo"I agree. They can throw money at all manner of players without the cost of a transfer and if it doesn't work out let them retire back from Union into League.
[uWe wouldn't be able to ban them from our sport as we need all the stars we can get. [/u
What other sport would tolerate Willie Mason for example?
We need names to try and sell the game.
Long term I can see the RFU having a plan to absorb the RFL and place us as a similar offshoot of their game such as 7s.'"
Balls to that. Solomona should be banned from RL for at least the remaining years on his Cas contract. And we don't need "names" to sell the game, if we do then what the hell are the RFL doing?
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| Quote nottinghamtiger="nottinghamtiger"I would imagine it will be guided by:
The value of the three offers Castleford received and rejected.
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Following this conversation a few days a go, I have been spending my spare time reading up on the legal premise of receiving offers leading to value. Whilst I have learnt a lot about trademark law I haven't really seen anything I can relate yet.
That being said, the fundamental premise will be, have Castleford lost out on that transfer fee directly because of Solomona's actions? If Castleford had rejected the offers before Solomona became subject to disciplinary proceedings (and that is an assumption on my behalf), then it is conjecture that Castleford would receive further offers of equal/ higher value. It would be up to Castleford to prove that another club were planning to bid when Solomona took his leave (I wouldn't assume they would have to prove value, as its an easy jump of logic that a club knowing Castleford had rejected X that they would have to offer at least X as well). If they cannot prove that, then I cannot see how Castleford can include this as part of their damages.
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| Any truth in the rumour Phil Clarke owes a percentage of his brothers agency?. If true way to go Phil...assisting in asset stripping the sport that you claim to love and commentate on!
Greedy lover....if there are any more "retirements", A warm welcome awaits you next season at R.L grounds I think!
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