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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"No but at that point the team also had more injured players than fit ones. Including every prop at the club being out injured at one point.'"
I don't see how you can pin Millward with the owner or whoever wanting out and a couple of players apparently wanting to leave! Wire is allegedly the club after Clark and they are very much in the business of poaching other club's young players instead of promoting from within. Saints lost James Graham, Kyle Eastmond and Leon Pryce last season. Sometimes players leave clubs; sometimes they join them. You've just signed Jamie Ellis who loved playing for Millward, as did all the Leigh team so far as I can see and so did the Saints team under him.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"I don't see how you can pin Millward with the owner or whoever wanting out and a couple of players apparently wanting to leave! Wire is allegedly the club after Clark and they are very much in the business of poaching other club's young players instead of promoting from within. Saints lost James Graham, Kyle Eastmond and Leon Pryce last season. Sometimes players leave clubs; sometimes they join them. You've just signed Jamie Ellis who loved playing for Millward, as did all the Leigh team so far as I can see and so did the Saints team under him.'"
hmmm. Basil is a coach that is very difficult to judge.
Excellent at Saints. the worst coach that wigan have ever seen.
OK for Leigh - but thats not exactly a high pressure position.
Was Basil lucky to inherit a team at saints ? or did he build it himself ?
because at Wigan he appeared to have no clue in the transfer market, and destroyed the players confidence by playing them out of position.
If Cas have inherited the Wigan version - then nothing that is happening comes as a surprise
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| TBF to Millward, he seems to be the only one commited to the cas cause, what with the chief exec rumoured to be wanting to jump ship, and players wanting to jump ship!!!
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"and players wanting to jump ship!!!'"
That's because of Millward, nothing else.
The club need to get shut of him now, it might cost money now but it will generate money in the long term because the crowds will drop even further if he stays in charge.
I wouldn't say he's in on the Cas cause either, he's helped Leigh more this year than he has Cas!
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| How do you know all this for a fact Gronky??
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"How do you know all this for a fact Gronky??'"
It's plainly obvious for all to see, Mathers knows all about it and I think it's the way Mildred handled Mathers that turned the players.
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"It's plainly obvious for all to see, Mathers knows all about it and I think it's the way Mildred handled Mathers that turned the players.'"
So you have no substance of fact. Your hypothesising on the claims of a player, which didn't tell both sides and even then that's flimsy.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"So you have no substance of fact. Your hypothesising on the claims of a player, which didn't tell both sides and even then that's flimsy.'"
I know you'll believe the clubs version of events on what happened but I'll take Mathers version of events, they sum Millward up to a tee.
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| what are mathers' version of events?
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| I think its a case of both tales really...the way Millward handled the situation with Mathers was absurd as he was our best player for the first half of the season albeit he dropped in form ridiculously towards the end of the season. However, the players are to blame also I think just becuase Millward has stopped them drinking or putting curfews on that disallows them to do so doesn't give them the reason to be "badasses" and tihnk they are bigger than the club e.g. Chase
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| It's no secret that Millward has upset some players but what he is trying to do is make you proffesional Some of the players over the last few seasons just think they can do what that want they spent more time drinking than training I hope Cas stick with Millward kick the big headed players out that think they are better than the Cas club and bring players in the will play for you obviously been a fev fan some of you may think I am wrong but I remember Powell coming to Fev clearing players out that were on good money when there contracts run out because they didn't want to train his way he brought his own in and we have done very well since
Back your coach get rid of player that don't want to work with him and you WILL. be a good S/L team too many players think they are bigger than the clubs they play for and in my opinion Cas have a few
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"It's plainly obvious for all to see, Mathers knows all about it and I think it's the way Mildred handled Mathers that turned the players.'"
Mathers whines about everything and I'd never take the word of a player who has been dropped. The two biggest whingers at Saints when Simmons was sacked were two players who were dropped by Simmons, yet other players sang his praises. Some will like Millward; some wont. But professionals seek a way of working with the boss whether they like them or not. Liking the boss is irrelevant in the world of work.
Millward inherited a good team at Saints. However, he transformed the way they played to such a degree that when he was sacked, loads of Saints fans staged a mass protest. He inherited a poor team at Leigh and transformed it. Leigh fans love him and the Leigh club obviously do as they have had him there twice and on both occasions he has been successful there.
As for Wigan, personally I thought he was great there! Agent Millward will always have a special place in our hearts if only for 75-0!
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