Unfortunately when something like this happens as in business Banter=Abuse, all must stop.

And would you like to answer my question, in your eyes are some forms of abuse to players ok and others not? yes or no answer please.

Did you choose to ignore that?



To be fair to you and question you are asking. Yes I do think abuse of a personal nature should be treated the same. And by that I mean Racist, homophobic, Fat, or Ginger, or others of a personal nature.

But you know just as clearly as I do that those are not dealt with the same in society, and by the same token the RFL policy does also not deal with Fat and Ginger comments the same as Racist and homophobic comments. It follows the same as society in general does.

As long as society in general deals that way then why should the RFL act differently upon it?

Perhaps because the respect policy of the rfl isnt that we will punsih whichever forms of disrimination are worse its that we will punish all forms of discrimination.

Since you agree that personal abuse of players is wrong, surely you would agree that the leeds club deserves some sort of reprimand for giving players personal abuse?

How do you work that one out?

How can you be punished for something in the game that is not against the rules of the game?

The rules didn't change you know just because Cas fans kicked up a stink about their own punishment. You were punished within the rules of the game. I have seen enough of your posts to know you are not foolish, so surely you are not daft enough to think clubs should be punished outside of the rules?

But Leeds were guilty of abusing a player...but because of an implied sliding abuse/moral scale should be overlooked against what the RFL are trying to implement with their Respect policy?

So we're going to complain about every game then?

It doesn't say anything of the like in the respect policy.

You also have to remember that respect policy is right the way down to the grass roots of the game, not just at pro level. And therefore is trying to cover everything that it can.

As with any rule in life you need to use common sense aswell. Something that appears to be lacking by some posters I can see.

Abuse is Abuse you cannot differentiate

Society in general differentiate, so of course you can differentiate. Does that make it right? no in my opinion.

But regardless are you seriously foolish enough to argue that the RFL should adopt a different view to society in general?

You do realise that Racist, Homophobic, or Sexist comments are not acceptable in society full stop by law? and that the RFL deal with those type of comments in the same manner.

Did you hold the same views before last week? Are you going to say that it does not matter that it was Leeds on Saturday, but I would have said the same even if we had not got a fine?

It didn't matter it was Leeds just as it was unlucky to be first on sky as it was Cas for gt first away game.
The policy is matter of fact and not open to interpretation or else it would be vague guidelines and not a policy.
And yes before last week I have had personal knowledge of the fine line between banter and abuse/bullying, so have my values set accordingly.

It says in the rfl respect policy that no form of discrimination will be tolerated, if we ignore one form of discrimination and punish another it shows that some forms of discrimination will be tolerated and i think we can both agree that is wrong.

The rules can be changed and applied retrospectivly in order to deal with an issue that is against rfl policy but not in the letter of the law (such as punishing hull for fielding an illegible player in the cup despite no punishment being in the rules beforehand), its pretty clear that if the rfls policy is to not tolerate any form of discrimination then the rules should be in place to reflect that.

There is no policy on fat or ginger chants. Show me where it states that anywhere in a policy.

What it does enforce is adhering to the family image, which is going all the way down to grass roots level. It also states that you should not be allowed to attend a game under the influence of alchohol, is that enforced?

But where it is clear in it's policy is to follow the laws of the country and society in general, where it makes clear, Racist, Homophobic, or Sexual chants/comments will not be tolerated and punishment will be made.

So are you saying abusing "fat or Ginger" is acceptable.

You really are scraping the barrell.

This is the defintion that the RFL follow to the letter.