tell the truth troll. you never saw the game

A conspiracy, orchestrated at Red Hall, and implemented by cheating match officials to make us lose the game, come what may?

Jeez: have we all turned into some horrible amalgam of Starbug and the worst of the Widnes fans immediately after the franchise decisions???

atotd, the reason we lost is clear in the pattern of the game: in both halves we came out scored two quick tries (while failing to convert one) but couldn't build on that and put the game to bed – instead, in the second 20 of both halves, we let Rovers back into the game and they scored two tries each half, and converted all four goal attempts.


and fwiw: my opinion on the controversial VR decisions:

• the Ainscough one was always going to be "no try" – he grounded the ball short, and while I initially thought momentum carried him and the ball over, it was clear that the ball bounced up and went flying away while he slid over

• the "step over" – I'd have disallowed that for an improper ptb (in fact no attempt to play the ball), but, again ateotd, I'm not a ref

• the "knock on" – a clear 50-50 decision that could have gone either way but the VR ruled that he got a hand to the ball before it hit the ground, and it's as difficult to argue conclusively against that as it would be to argue conclusively against it if he'd gone the other way and ruled a knock-on.



Oh – and seven minutes from the end? There was time there for us to win it, if we'd shown the form and intensity we showed in the opening of both halves at the end of the game. It never really looked likely though.

I remember standing on the Railway end with about 17 minutes to go when we were still 20-12 up and thinking, not "we can go on and put this to bed" but "there's still plenty of time for us to lose this". And we did.


Which was disappointing.

Vasty is an annoying troll. But there's only one person keeps getting you banned.

but you would sooner ban your own than get rid of the t,w,a,t

mindboggling

I've never banned you. If I ever do, it'll be sitewide and you won't be back.


Now try and concentrate on the discussion, not trying to start arguments with everyone.

Hear hear

The RFL can kiss

yea thats just you

do it then , it just shows you care as much about cas at the present board do.

we need a siege mentality not this ra ra e

bye, ive banned mesen from this crap

Which, in general go to the attacking team as benefit of the doubt.

The problem with the illegal play the ball is that if a ref decides to disallow a try, which apart from that one part was a good score, then we have to go back to insisting that a PTB is struck with the boot. We cannot have a rule that allows illegal PTB's to be overlooked apart from when one leads to a try, that would be ridiculous.

No it wouldn't because Bentham asked for it to be checked, and in the rule book it was an illegal play the ball so if the ref asked for it checking and it's clearly an illegal play the ball, it should be no try penalty defence.

Surely all Saturday night proved was that either you need Video Replays at all games to enable a level playing field.

Based on the contraversial tries alone without the VR none of them would have been given.

1. If Bentham thought the play the ball was played incorrectly without the VR would he have penalised HKR? - Actually what annoy's me most of all with this is if you watch the game you can blatantly here Bentham shouting at goldy to play the ball with his foot!
2. Ainscough - This wouldn't have been given anyway!
3. Watts - This most certainly wouldn't have been given.

The deciding factor is as a sport do the clubs/RFL have to dig deep to enable VR at all games, or should they just shut up whinging and get on with it knowing that this will happen, when only two games a week (three if Catalan are at home) have VR, or should we do away full stop.

slightly O/T I personally don't think the officating at matches has improved greatly since they went full time!