I agree 100% with you, we have already got the youngsters, now let's see some good overseas players brought in, other clubs have brought in the likes of Trent Waterhouse, Anthony Lefrancchi, Wade McKinnon and Lance Hohaia, all of them front line NRL players, just wish we had the same recruitment drive as other clubs and bring in this quality of player.

Danny Kirmond from Hudds ?

Is he out of contract at end of season.?

If so think we may have talks with him as well.

I didn't discuss my long term ambitions, I think you have taken what I said slightly one-eyed.

Signing the likes of Darren Lockyer, Cam Smith, Billy Slater or as Warrington did Andrew Johns is a huge draw and clearly a no brainer. But with all due respect to the majority of overseas signings made by SuperLeague clubs, they aint.

So my point is, rather than sign a Ben Cross, I would rather leave the spots blank and as another poster said wear them like a badge of honour and sign another Davies or Walker or Clarke or Milner.

That was my only point, that is short term moderation for hopefully long term development.

I understand what your saying but does wearing a badge of honour bring us silverware?
And for how long do you wear a badge of honour, when will we go out and fill our overseas quota.
I know Leeds have been successful with there large influx of home grown players but they also have had some very good overseas players to complement them, such as Webb, Donald, Lauititi, Toopi and Leuluai.

oh no they're not front line NRL players,they're just the next bunch of unwanted NRL players that fancy a nice pay day over here,Hohai is the best of a bad bunch there imo

At the end of the day, the quota is 5. I'd utilise the quota of five players and have five world-class overseas stars supplemented by 20+ Cas youngsters. That should ultimately be the dream we aspire to.

Yes you could be right but they also could turn out to be very influential players, that's the risk you take.

How are laffranchi and hohai unwanted? bad bunch? they are top class players who will light up super league next season. I can only dream that cas bring in players of that calibre.

Those players mentioned would probably get a start in the England side,such is the depth of talent down under.

Thing is since we went to a summer game we won't see world class Aussies in their prime in Super League anymore....Origin and the national jersey is too big a pull for the likes of Slater,Inglis,Thurston,Hayne etc.

There is alot of good 1st grade players in the N.R.L to look at....must say i think Harlequins have done great in getting that ex Melbourne prop (Kuofusi)?.

Think we need 2 props, a big raw boned backrower (we must have the smallest back 3 in the league), and if the new coach doesn't play Mcgoldrick there a quality centre. We are relatively inexperienced there and im afraid to say i think Isa maybe be too injury prone

If I'm honest, I disagree.

I think the backrow is decent - Ferres, Jones, Aspinwall, Thompson, Holmes. We need Ferres and Holmes to work in their strength over the summer and we'll have to beasts in the backrow. I also think that in the long run, we'll probably see Isa there as he has the ball-handling skills and the hard-running to make it.

In that instance, I think we need a big centre to slot in on the other side of Arundel and to help out Chase on the left flank. We also need a hard-running prop that can make metres and offload. As it stands:

FB: Mathers/Eden
W: Youngquest/Owen/Dixon
C: Arundel/Isa
SO: Chase/McGoldrick
SH: Orr
P: Huby/Emmitt/Walker/Jackson/Fozzard/Massey
H: Milner/Clark
SR: Ferres/Jones/Aspinwall/Holmes/Thompson/Snitch/Widders
LF: Hudson/Davies

Widders is retiring, Fozzard may also be off and I think it's time we let Snitch go too. Not impressed me this season and with Thompson and Holmes coming through I really don't see a future for him. His wages can be better utilised elsewhere.

I think we're definitely top heavy in the SR department and the loss of two (Snitch and Widders) can even be supplement by Emmitt playing SR as he did at start of the season.

Shopping list for me: Centre, Prop x 2, utility back. Thus making our squad.

1. Mathers
2. Owen
3. Arundel
4. New centre
5. Dixon
6. Chase
7. Orr
8. New Prop
9. Milner
10. Huby
11. Emmitt
12. Holmes
13. Ferres

14. Hudson
15. Walker
16. Jackson
17. Thompson

18. Clark
19. Aspinwall
20. Jones
21. Isa
22. Eden
23. McGoldrick
24. Youngquest
25. Massey
26. Davies
27. Utility back
28. Parker (?)
29. Billy Harris
30. Sam Orange
31. A Junior
32. A Junior

You've got the same problem we (Leeds) will have in recruiting a centre: there aren't any. England has precisely no world class centres to choose from, and the exchange rate makes SL ever-less attractive for an Aussie payday recruit.

I heard a rumour that Ferres was out of contract. Is that true?