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Having studied the rule book today, Ive come to the conclusion that Liam Watts final try was CORRECTLY awarded. There is nothing in the rules that prevents it being given.

However, Scott Murrells was INCORRECTLY awarded, as Liam Watts made no attempt to play the ball correctly.

That said I personally feel that the word "control" should be in the laws regarding the scoring of a try. Try as I might, I cannot find it. Im open to being wrong, but thats my interpretation.

So in my view Cas were wrongly done by the match officials, who week after week stun me with their incompetance from Super League down to amatuers on a weekend. Whats is worse is the pandemic of arrogance that is rife amongst them. Zero humility at all.

BUT, before I get shot down, its not the main reason Cas lost - our errors were to blame!

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There was another questionable referee decision for the first HKR try. The HKR forward (Watts?) was held up over the line but the referee allowed him to play the ball on the tryline (he never actually played the ball) and HKR dummy half dove over to score.

1) The play the ball should have been 10 metres from the line
2) We need to enforce the play the ball with the foot rule, not attempt to play it with the foot.

I also thought that Ainscoughs try shouldn't have been ruled out, there was more than good reason for giving that try on benefit of the doubt.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "There was another questionable referee decision for the first HKR try. The HKR forward (Watts?) was held up over the line but the referee allowed him to play the ball on the tryline (he never actually played the ball) and HKR dummy half dove over to score.

1) The play the ball should have been 10 metres from the line
2) We need to enforce the play the ball with the foot rule, not attempt to play it with the foot.

I also thought that Ainscoughs try shouldn't have been ruled out, there was more than good reason for giving that try on benefit of the doubt.'"



1)
my husband said the same
2)
I agree have seen those tries given as benefit of doubt before

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Quote: Gazemous "Indeed, and that's what he got completely and utterly wrong. There's absolutely zero doubt that that try shouldn't have stood.'"


In your head maybe but not in the head of Mr Gansons, that's the only opinion that counts on this occasion. Over the course of a season these things even themselves out. You all seem to conveniently forget the dodgy forward pass that lead to one of Ainscoughs tries. You lot should really take your black and amber glasses off and get in the real world!

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Bloody hell,I hope the ref on Friday is o.k. icon_eek.gif
Its like all out war on here! icon_beat.gif

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Quote: HULLMAD "nah have been for 40 years and dont like it when cheats prosper.'"


That coming from a Hull FC fan rlrl



At no point did any rovers players claim that was a try, so rovers did'nt cheat, it was a ref decision so rovers cannot be apportioned the blame. d040.gif

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Next time i play rugby in a tight game, when near the line, im gunna hit a gap, throw the ball through the gap (not letting it touch the floor of course) and just as its about to hit the floor ill stick a finger at the side of the ball (without any control whatsoever) and score the winner!

Without a doubt the WORST desicion i have ever seen watching rugby league, end of.......

Dont even get me started on Ainscough's dissallowed try!!

But............. Big But................

I dont think we deserved to win, any team who lets go of a 10 point lead, then an 8 point lead, with 10 mins left, with as many chances as we bombed, doesnt deserve to win!!

Still we were Robbed!!

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'Kin hell are they still going on about it!!!

Taken from seven minutes from the end when he fly-kicked the ball following Dobson’s grubber and gathered to touch down".

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Quote: vastman "The irony is staggering and yet a little sad, you really don't know what you are
oh youre back are you ?

on a tag ? or just trying to get someone banned again with your e

go back to the drug infested dark side of heath common you

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Quote: CHURCHILL "I'm no troll, I'm on this forum saying plenty of positives about Cas, but yet you're abusive to me, no need really is there. As said, it was a try, the rules state it was a try, yet you claim I didn't even see the game, can I have my entrance money back then please?'"



tell the truth troll. you never saw the game eusa_wall.gif eusa_wall.gif eusa_wall.gif

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A conspiracy, orchestrated at Red Hall, and implemented by cheating match officials to make us lose the game, come what may?

Jeez: have we all turned into some horrible amalgam of Starbug and the worst of the Widnes fans immediately after the franchise decisions??? icon_surprised.gifops:

atotd, the reason we lost is clear in the pattern of the game: in both halves we came out scored two quick tries (while failing to convert one) but couldn't build on that and put the game to bed – instead, in the second 20 of both halves, we let Rovers back into the game and they scored two tries each half, and converted all four goal attempts.


and fwiw: my opinion on the controversial VR decisions:

• the Ainscough one was always going to be "no try" – he grounded the ball short, and while I initially thought momentum carried him and the ball over, it was clear that the ball bounced up and went flying away while he slid over

• the "step over" – I'd have disallowed that for an improper ptb (in fact no attempt to play the ball), but, again ateotd, I'm not a ref

• the "knock on" – a clear 50-50 decision that could have gone either way but the VR ruled that he got a hand to the ball before it hit the ground, and it's as difficult to argue conclusively against that as it would be to argue conclusively against it if he'd gone the other way and ruled a knock-on.



Oh – and seven minutes from the end? There was time there for us to win it, if we'd shown the form and intensity we showed in the opening of both halves at the end of the game. It never really looked likely though.

I remember standing on the Railway end with about 17 minutes to go when we were still 20-12 up and thinking, not "we can go on and put this to bed" but "there's still plenty of time for us to lose this". And we did.


Which was disappointing.

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Quote: itsalldarntlane " trying to get someone banned again with your poop
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Vasty is an annoying troll. But there's only one person keeps getting you banned.

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oh god...... get a life troll

you never saw the game or you wouldnt spout such sheeeeite

i pity you

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Quote: tb "Vasty is an annoying troll. But there's only one person keeps getting you banned.'"


but you would sooner ban your own than get rid of the t,w,a,t

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I've never banned you. If I ever do, it'll be sitewide and you won't be back.


Now try and concentrate on the discussion, not trying to start arguments with everyone.

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