FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Castleford Tigers > Willie Isa
41 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, pyeman , Hughies sister
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4538.jpg
[url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php][img]//img405.imageshack.us/img405/1116/roar1xz5.gif[/img][/url] [url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php]The Aye Of The Tigers Fanzine[/url]:4538.jpg



Quote: ParanoidAndroid "So, of the 5 games he has started, we have won 4 of them, scored 3 tries and on this basis is not worthy of renewing his contract? Granted, he has been unlucky with injury but that record shows that when he does start, we are a stronger team and he knows where the try line is, given a prolonged injury-free spell, who knows what he is capable of.

Dare I suggest we might have unearthed another gem akin to Rangi? A robust centre who knows how to finish and has a bit of 'grunt' about him.'"


Mmm you could say that that was due to Huby and Walker playing as well, We cant afford to carry players. When is he going to play again ? next season ? I could be proved wrong, but if it was me, the money would be spent elsewhere,

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach646No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2012Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45047_1329226743.jpg
The saying 'bent as a 9 bob note' has now been dropped.....corrected phrase is 'bent as the RFL!':d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45047.jpg



Quote: ParanoidAndroid "Dare I suggest we might have unearthed another gem akin to Rangi? A robust centre who knows how to finish and has a bit of 'grunt' about him.'"


I must be watching a different player!!! The guy I thought was Isa is the one that runs around like a headless chicken not knowing where he should be positioned or what he should be doing. As I put earlier, 'bags of energy' but very little skill, technique or game awareness.

The attribute that he shares with Rangi, is that he does fly into tackles, and the big ones he makes are big! However, many seem to overlook those they miss! Rangi for example is the 7th worst in the whole of SL for missed tackles this year with 54.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5035No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2021Oct 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44747_1304271884.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44747.png



Quote: the_grobs "I must be watching a different player!!! The guy I thought was Isa is the one that runs around like a headless chicken not knowing where he should be positioned or what he should be doing. As I put earlier, 'bags of energy' but very little skill, technique or game awareness.'"


I think you've been watching a different player icon_confused.gif the games he has played, he's been the best centre on the pitch.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach646No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2012Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45047_1329226743.jpg
The saying 'bent as a 9 bob note' has now been dropped.....corrected phrase is 'bent as the RFL!':d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45047.jpg



Quote: Gronk! "I think you've been watching a different player
Ooohh heck, what does that say about the other centres! icon_ask.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach270No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2012May 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
22528.jpg
:22528.jpg



Quote: the_grobs "I'd let him go aswell!

IMO, from what I've seen of him he shows bags of energy but that is about all!!!

Unfortunately when it comes to skill, technique, positional awareness and understanding of the game he is sadly lacking! Nobody likes to see a busy fool on the pitch, and if the energy doesn't lead to a great tackle or clean break etc.....then it can becomes more of a liability than an asset!

Nothing against the guy, but I think we can do better!'"


I often wonder if you watch the same team as me icon_confused.gif:

I watch the Cas Tigers who play on Wheldon Road and wear black and Amber. Which one do you watch icon_confused.gif:

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner5149No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2018Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9209.jpg
[img:6n2uprh1]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v421/casman87/My%20Pictures/Sig.jpg[/img:6n2uprh1]:9209.jpg



Quote: ParanoidAndroid "So, of the 5 games he has started, we have won 4 of them, scored 3 tries and on this basis is not worthy of renewing his contract? Granted, he has been unlucky with injury but that record shows that when he does start, we are a stronger team and he knows where the try line is, given a prolonged injury-free spell, who knows what he is capable of.'"


That's exactly what I was thinking. I would be willing to give him another year providing he can stay relatively injury free

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach646No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2012Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45047_1329226743.jpg
The saying 'bent as a 9 bob note' has now been dropped.....corrected phrase is 'bent as the RFL!':d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45047.jpg



Quote: casman2 "That's exactly what I was thinking. I would be willing to give him another year providing he can stay relatively injury free'"


Is this for real?? What would you sit down with Isa and say 'come on now Willie...tell me the truth...are you going to stay injury free next year?, because if you are then we'll give you a new contract...but if your not then we're not going to extend your contract.....C'mon Willie tell the truth now, injured or not injured next year...what's it gonna be icon_ask.gif ???' LOL

All I can say is that some are easier to please than others. I do go to 'almost' every game. Admittedly being 8,000 miles away stopped me going to the Crusaders game, but I'll be there on Sunday....I'm easy to spot, I'm the one without the Cas rose tinted glasses.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach58No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2012Apr 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: the_grobs "Is this for real?? What would you sit down with Isa and say 'come on now Willie...tell me the truth...are you going to stay injury free next year?, because if you are then we'll give you a new contract...but if your not then we're not going to extend your contract.....C'mon Willie tell the truth now, injured or not injured next year...what's it gonna be


Yaaaawwwn eusa_boohoo.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach270No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2012May 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
22528.jpg
:22528.jpg



Quote: the_grobs "Is this for real?? What would you sit down with Isa and say 'come on now Willie...tell me the truth...are you going to stay injury free next year?, because if you are then we'll give you a new contract...but if your not then we're not going to extend your contract.....C'mon Willie tell the truth now, injured or not injured next year...what's it gonna be
Nobody is denying that he hasn't played enough matches and on this season evidence he would appear to be injury prone.

However when he has played he has looked a good player with a lot of potential as a young guy - and we have undoubtedly looked a much better side with him playing out wide - can't see where u get headless chicken etc from.

Not a case of rose tinted glasses just giving credit where its due realy.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8487No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
12205_1307822450.png
[img:32iwt8q2]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/fullyitfc/cas-4-1.jpg[/img:32iwt8q2]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12205.png



I'm sure Willie really asked for injuries. Dear me. Pay as you play. Sorted.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4538.jpg
[url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php][img]//img405.imageshack.us/img405/1116/roar1xz5.gif[/img][/url] [url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php]The Aye Of The Tigers Fanzine[/url]:4538.jpg



Quote: Fully "I'm sure Willie really asked for injuries. Dear me. Pay as you play. Sorted.'"


I'd go with that, Pay as you Play

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach646No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2012Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45047_1329226743.jpg
The saying 'bent as a 9 bob note' has now been dropped.....corrected phrase is 'bent as the RFL!':d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45047.jpg



Quote: NormyCasTiger "Yaaaawwwn
What an incredibly constructive and well thought out response!! A real contribution to the discussion. icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach646No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2012Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45047_1329226743.jpg
The saying 'bent as a 9 bob note' has now been dropped.....corrected phrase is 'bent as the RFL!':d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45047.jpg



Quote: westyorkylad "Nobody is denying that he hasn't played enough matches and on this season evidence he would appear to be injury prone.

However when he has played he has looked a good player with a lot of potential as a young guy - and we have undoubtedly looked a much better side with him playing out wide - can't see where u get headless chicken etc from.

Not a case of rose tinted glasses just giving credit where its due realy.'"


My comment was really just to say, unfortunately there is already a track record of injury. Hence, giving him another years contract 'if he's not going to be injured' (as a previous post suggested) is well and truly crystal ball territory tainted by the fact that he does seem injury prone. 'Pay as you play' would seem to be the way to go, but I guess agents and contracts would protect him from that exposure and risk these days!

I think that what people see with Isa is raw energy and enthusiasm. That isn't a bad thing, however IMO this energy needs to be refined before he can be regarded as a quality player in his position. Its just like comparing a fighter and a boxer. The furious energy of a 'fighter' can be impressive to many at times. However, put them 'toe to toe' with a quality boxer, and the boxer will proceed to take them appart!

If he plays another game this season, against a quality opposing centre, let's review after the game. As a Cas supporter I of course hope he has a blinder!!!

RankPostsTeam
International Star132No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2015Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Speedy "I'd go with that, Pay as you Play'"


Are any SL players actually on a pay as you play deal? What are the salary cap implications of such contracts?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4538.jpg
[url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php][img]//img405.imageshack.us/img405/1116/roar1xz5.gif[/img][/url] [url=//www.ayberspace.co.uk/Aye2012/php-files/news.php]The Aye Of The Tigers Fanzine[/url]:4538.jpg



Quote: Bethman "Are any SL players actually on a pay as you play deal? What are the salary cap implications of such contracts?'"


TBH i dont know, id imagine not many players would agree to it in reality, as they might be able to get a regular income guaranteed from a lower division club,

But good question, how could you account for it in the salary cap, We would have to ask the Goons on that one icon_wink.gif

41 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, pyeman , Hughies sister
41 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, pyeman , Hughies sister



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


1.60546875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
13m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Father Ted
72
21m
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
22m
Film game
Boss Hog
4966
Recent
IMG Score
Bent&Bon
59
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hessle Roade
3635
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3484
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Father Ted
72
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3484
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hessle Roade
3635
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
4966
1m
2025 Recruitment
Highlander
155
2m
2025 Shirt
MR FRISK
10
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62909
6m
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
9m
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
12m
Aston Banned
MP
5
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
MR FRISK
10
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
9
TODAY
Sky tv deals
ninearches
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Lord Tony Sm
24
TODAY
New Kit
MorePlaymake
57
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
24
TODAY
The Aussies are coming
Bullseye
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa Comfortably In First Test
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
TODAY
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
88
TODAY
Trinity back on super league forum
RoyBoy29
4
TODAY
IN 2025 Maika Sivo - Expires 2028
batleyrhino
36
TODAY
Danny McGuire new head coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
What happens now
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Liam Kay
Wollo-Wollo-
53
TODAY
Coach announced
The Dors
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
260
England's Women Demolish The W..
246
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
636
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
487
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
632
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1262
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1483
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1757
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1332
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1606
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
1958
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1539
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1632
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1744
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
1965
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 1,199 ↓-10580,15414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024 2 England M34-18Samoa M
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
13m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Father Ted
72
21m
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
22m
Film game
Boss Hog
4966
Recent
IMG Score
Bent&Bon
59
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hessle Roade
3635
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3484
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Father Ted
72
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3484
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hessle Roade
3635
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
4966
1m
2025 Recruitment
Highlander
155
2m
2025 Shirt
MR FRISK
10
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62909
6m
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
9m
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
12m
Aston Banned
MP
5
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
MR FRISK
10
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
9
TODAY
Sky tv deals
ninearches
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Lord Tony Sm
24
TODAY
New Kit
MorePlaymake
57
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
24
TODAY
The Aussies are coming
Bullseye
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa Comfortably In First Test
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
TODAY
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
88
TODAY
Trinity back on super league forum
RoyBoy29
4
TODAY
IN 2025 Maika Sivo - Expires 2028
batleyrhino
36
TODAY
Danny McGuire new head coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
What happens now
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Liam Kay
Wollo-Wollo-
53
TODAY
Coach announced
The Dors
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
260
England's Women Demolish The W..
246
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
636
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
487
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
632
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1262
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1483
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1757
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1332
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1606
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
1958
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1539
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1632
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1744
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
1965


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!