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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"You would hope that there were provision for this within the standard playing agreement.'"
Just think it'll end with the undisclosed fee statement.
It's going to be difficult for a court to say you cannot play any other sport other than league a ban from league yes a ban from other sports unlikely.
I'm sure some legal brief will quote Chase retired from the sport and was allowed to sign for Cas (with Leighs agreement) and that Dwyane Chambers was serving a ban when he signed a trial contract at Cas
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| Quote bezzerscr="bezzerscr"Just think it'll end with the undisclosed fee statement.
It's going to be difficult for a court to say you cannot play any other sport other than league a ban from league yes a ban from other sports unlikely.
I'm sure some legal brief will quote Chase retired from the sport and was allowed to sign for Cas (with Leighs agreement) and that Dwyane Chambers was serving a ban when he signed a trial contract at Cas'" it doesn't matter. Chase did so with Leigh's permission so didn't breach contract, Chambers had no contract to breach.
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| Theo Farges? Joel Moon? Hudson Smith? All walked out on a contract all against their clubs wishes all signed elsewhere for the UNDISCLOSED FEE.
Can't see this ending any other way
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| Quote bezzerscr="bezzerscr"Theo Farges? Joel Moon? Hudson Smith? All walked out on a contract all against their clubs wishes all signed elsewhere for the UNDISCLOSED FEE.
Can't see this ending any other way'"
because their clubs allowed them to.
If they do come to some agreement, it probably will be undisclosed, but I wouldn't bet on it being an insignificant amount.
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| The amount will be irrelevant for the new Sale owners already taking of spending millions.
Don't get me wrong nothing would please me more than Sale getting hammered in the courts but look at their history they stitched up Sale RFC when stealing their name they stitched up Stockport County when they bought Edgley Pk and they didn't do a bad job letting Salford nearly bankrupt themselves getting Barton up and running only to take the opportunity to get control of the stadium without spending a penny
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"because their clubs allowed them to.'"
In the end remember Marwan Koukash demanding a world record fee for Farges to deter Saints didn't work.
Like I've said that will be the outcome of this also a lot of talk a lot of posturing and in the end he signs for Sale.
Cas need to get the best deal they can but if they dig in to much Sale will let it run and if a court rules against them (unlikely) they will move on and Cas end up with a very unhappy player and we've all seen where that ends
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"because their clubs allowed them to.'"
In the end remember Marwan Koukash demanding a world record fee for Farges to deter Saints didn't work.
Like I've said that will be the outcome of this also a lot of talk a lot of posturing and in the end he signs for Sale.
Cas need to get the best deal they can but if they dig in to much Sale will let it run and if a court rules against them (unlikely) they will move on and Cas end up with a very unhappy player and we've all seen where that ends
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| Opps double post that's what happens when you multi task
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| Quote bezzerscr="bezzerscr"Sale sharks argument will be he retired from RL and chose to play another sport and there is no agreement between league and union to honour each others bans.
Remember all those union converts from when union was amateur all were given bans by the RFU and we ignored them so apart from banning from league can't see anything other than Cas accepting an undisclosed fee.'"
Sale cant just ignore contract and employment law. He has a fixed period contract and cannot work for another employer outside that contract period with his employers consent. Most people have an open ended contract of employment but with a notice period one month three months 12 months etc. You cna give notice but you cant just walk out and start working without honouring those terms. Many contract also have covenants which cant dictate who you work for but that you cant take business or clients with you. A sporting contract is for a fixed period and any court would enforce that regardless of the industry involved. The only way around it is to compensate the exisiting employer or pay up the value of the constract
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| Quote rhino phil="rhino phil"Sale cant just ignore contract and employment law. He has a fixed period contract and cannot work for another employer outside that contract period with his employers consent. Most people have an open ended contract of employment but with a notice period one month three months 12 months etc. You cna give notice but you cant just walk out and start working without honouring those terms. Many contract also have covenants which cant dictate who you work for but that you cant take business or clients with you. A sporting contract is for a fixed period and any court would enforce that regardless of the industry involved. The only way around it is to compensate the exisiting employer or pay up the value of the constract'"
In a nutshell that's what I've been saying like Leeds did with Moon encouraged him to go to a tribunal failed he claimed homesickness said he wouldn't come back Salford forced into accepting a UNDISCLOSED fee same with Farges and the same will happen here. Wrong I accept but that's how it goes.
As I said earlier can't see a judge stopping him from accepting a better contract but can see one accepting a ban from rugby league only
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| Quote rhino phil="rhino phil"Sale cant just ignore contract and employment law. He has a fixed period contract and cannot work for another employer outside that contract period with his employers consent. Most people have an open ended contract of employment but with a notice period one month three months 12 months etc. You cna give notice but you cant just walk out and start working without honouring those terms. Many contract also have covenants which cant dictate who you work for but that you cant take business or clients with you. A sporting contract is for a fixed period and any court would enforce that regardless of the industry involved. The only way around it is to compensate the exisiting employer or pay up the value of the constract'"
If he has "retired" as reported then there's very little Cas will be able to do other than chase him for a couple of months worth of salary which would cover the time he should be at the club running his notice down. Sale have been somewhat immoral but it doesn't appear to be illegal what they've done and nothing worse than what RL has done to RU in the past.
Cas may be posturing now saying that they don't agree with it, but faced with the prospect of an expensive court case they likely gain very little from, they'll cut their losses and agree to his release just as other clubs have done before
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