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Quote: Uppo58 "Hi Captain Caveman, your valid point is certainly not lost on me, and no-one would ever convince me that mergers of clubs that are some 140miles apart is ever going to be a real merger, your absolutely right. If there's an ulterior motive and / or its not agreed by the clubs involved then it shouldn't happen. In our case it did happen and Hull FC were the benefactors. It should never happen again in such a way in my opinion.

However in your case the distance we are talking about is just 4 miles to a mid point ground, not 140miles. OK Normanton Uniteds ground may not be right, but don't get hooked on it as the actual location, it just has to be somewhere that is fairly placed for all 3. I'm just seeing Nomanton FC ground/pitch as land that is already used for football, cricket, and so why not be the Stadium home for the area ??. Don't see it as a patch of land.......have the vision to see it as your stadium.
The KC stadium was built on parkland with its own covenant and also incorporating a Rugby Union and Cricket pitch. The Council found a way to overcome the barriers to make it happen If the place I propose is a no-goer then propose something better in Normanton thats even better placed.
Do not under estimate what such a stadium could do for your area in general, the KC has been brilliant for East Yorkshire as a whole, not just Hull the City.


Your merger was only done to get you into super league by the back door the same as Huddersfield. On the subject of us merging with Wakefield and Featherstone i would never watch rugby again and i have been a Cas supporter for 50 years. I would however agree to a groundshare but the problem is that unlike the rest of you with new grounds we would have to finance it ourselves, we have no football clubs or council funds to pay for it, so can you tell me where the money will come from. If Pearson leaves FC for Leeds United it will be interesting to see what happens to you.

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Quote: Disco "So essentially you're basing the success of all three existing clubs plus another 'super club' on a speculative estimate of fan behaviour which itself looks highly dubious when compared with similar situations elsewhere...

I don't want to support a new club. I want to support Castleford. Even if I did have the disposable income necessary to be fully active in two clubs, my second choice wouldn't be a new club, it would be Castleford TWICE. I doubt very much indeed that any new club in the area would get any support at all from those already paying to follow their chosen club. There may be some drift to the lure of Super League rugby, yes, but I'd wager not enough to sustain the club, and certainly to the detriment of the three 'feeder' clubs' gates.

The only way a super club would survive is if the three existing clubs didn't.'"


Thats how i see it.

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Quote: rhintintin "Yes it is based on speculation. However there are no similar situations elsewhere and I did say it would be a big gamble. However it would seem a safer bet then setting up a brand new side in an area with no interest in Rugby League; which the NRL has managed with Melbourne.'"

It's rather disingenuous to compare the state of our game with the NRL isn't it?

The bottom line is this: The anecdotal evidence (look no further than this messageboard) indicates absolutely no stomach at all for a merged team among those who would be expected to watch it. The key promoters of the idea are without exception from outside the five towns area, yet despite the endless repetition of the word "NO" by Wakey, Cas and Fev fans alike, there remains an endless supply of outsiders trying to tell us what's good for us.

Huddersfield/Sheffield, Hull FC/Gateshead... Mergers don't work, certainly not in the way they are perpetually spun as working. They are nothing more than a means for one struggling club to make an asset grab on another struggling club in the hope that at least one of them can survive. This peddled myth that merging offers some kind of utopian dream for fans needs to be shot down once and for all.

Maybe Cas should go down to the Championship at least for a while. Having been there I confess it felt quite good to be a big fish, even if it was in a smaller pond. Or maybe we should be given the help, opportunities and favours enjoyed by other clubs who have struggled and with assistance seemingly turned things around.

But please, please, please... for the millionth time... will people just stop banging on about a five towns merger?

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I was not suggesting a merger. That was the point of the post. And if I can't compare with the NRL then I don't think you can judge the potential of the idea from fewer that half a dozen posters on an internet forum.

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Quote: Disco "It's rather disingenuous to compare the state of our game with the NRL isn't it?

The bottom line is this


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Quote: rhintintin "You would get the income from a ground sale, but that isn't particularly easy as Cas well know.'"


Given that Cas owe the value of their land to Jack Fulton, you wouldn't even get that.

This whole discussion is based on a series of misinformed and wrongheaded assumptions; a merger or whatever else is being proposed makes sense only to those people who a) have no idea of what they're actually talking about or b) want to believe that culling a number of clubs will result in more Sky money for those that remain. Why anyone thinks that Sky would continue to fund SL at the same level it does now with 4 less teams participating and fewer televised matches is probably worthy of a separate discussion all of its own.

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