I admire your optimism mate, but I don't not share it. The evidence for more hollow promises is far more overwhelming.

You are entitled to your opinion though, as I am mine, thus is the spice of life!

Para 2, spot on!!!!
It wasn't about nob measuring, just about the possibility of one being pulled if the other one was succesful, which from my POV seems like a common sense thing to happen, in light of the state of the country, job losses and economies.

I'm somewhat baffled by the insistence of some on here that the commencement of the building of one stadium will preclude the progress of the other. If a single entity was contributing finances to the building of both that would make sense but each is being built with private funding wholly independent of the other.

The idea that the council can withdraw planning permission to a stadium if the other is built is plainly illogical - once granted planning permission cannot be withdrawn. That's not to say the council couldn't take a different view when the existing permission expires!

The only realistic way that the progress of one stadium would affect the building of the other is if either club has their new stadium underway but the other doesn't by the time the next franchise review comes round. If that's the case then I've little doubt the RFL will jetison the club who's stadium is still stuck on the drawing board from SL. Once that's done the motive for building a new stadium is lost and the club in question is destined to never return to SL.

I know it's fashionable to be all doom and gloom these days but we're on the brink of the new season - how's about we all look forward to that and stop the endless (and entirely hypothetical) bickering about who's stadium will/might/won't get built first?

One thing we do know is that we will all know where we stand by the Wembley Final, because we will have had the PI decision plus some clarity about progress, if granted, and the Cas position will have either moved on significantly (as funding is the only shortfall) or not at all.

If NM is knocked back, it will be interesting to see what happens next. Cas would have a couple of years to find a buyer, and I wonder how much would have to be done to Belle Vue to make it a Super League stadium. Re-lay the terraces, cover even more of it, improve the seating area. Would have a couple of years to sort it.

Would the owners let you stay there?

If the PI comes back negative, I think the club would buy BV back from the BoI.