Is it just me that is extremely concerned about the future of the club? First and foremost because the ground (which has been discussed in detail since 2003) is still no closer to having been built despite two petitions to the council, three official architects being announced, three potential buyers of the new ground falling through. We have been constantly asked for our support which we are all willing to give, but the fact remains there is only so much we can do. I hope those of you who bought bricks kept your receipt.

I am getting a feeling that it is 1996 all over again where they tried and failed to force us, Wakefield and Featherstone to merge. I get a feeling 15 years on they will try again, albeit when the next franchise comes up, it will be neither of you will get in unless you ground share. I hope I am wrong, but I am starting to get very worried.

This will in turn lead to the whole 'the area can only sustain one team' argument and they will try and merge our squads again. I am pleased with the blooding of youngsters from our own ranks and this is a major positive for us, but we need some more experienced players in key areas next season. This year I think we have too many second rowers (seven in total plus two utility 'back rowers') with no cover in the half backs or centres.

All the above gleaned from the Cas and Pont website archives, it is a joke how much bull has been spoken on this subject by the board over the years, they are simply p[aying lip service in my opinion because they know it is what people want. They do it to keep the wolf from the door, that is all.

Its time for the board to deliver, hollow promises do not work with me any more...

Para 2, spot on!!!!
It wasn't about nob measuring, just about the possibility of one being pulled if the other one was succesful, which from my POV seems like a common sense thing to happen, in light of the state of the country, job losses and economies.

I'm somewhat baffled by the insistence of some on here that the commencement of the building of one stadium will preclude the progress of the other. If a single entity was contributing finances to the building of both that would make sense but each is being built with private funding wholly independent of the other.

The idea that the council can withdraw planning permission to a stadium if the other is built is plainly illogical - once granted planning permission cannot be withdrawn. That's not to say the council couldn't take a different view when the existing permission expires!

The only realistic way that the progress of one stadium would affect the building of the other is if either club has their new stadium underway but the other doesn't by the time the next franchise review comes round. If that's the case then I've little doubt the RFL will jetison the club who's stadium is still stuck on the drawing board from SL. Once that's done the motive for building a new stadium is lost and the club in question is destined to never return to SL.

I know it's fashionable to be all doom and gloom these days but we're on the brink of the new season - how's about we all look forward to that and stop the endless (and entirely hypothetical) bickering about who's stadium will/might/won't get built first?

One thing we do know is that we will all know where we stand by the Wembley Final, because we will have had the PI decision plus some clarity about progress, if granted, and the Cas position will have either moved on significantly (as funding is the only shortfall) or not at all.

If NM is knocked back, it will be interesting to see what happens next. Cas would have a couple of years to find a buyer, and I wonder how much would have to be done to Belle Vue to make it a Super League stadium. Re-lay the terraces, cover even more of it, improve the seating area. Would have a couple of years to sort it.

Would the owners let you stay there?

If the PI comes back negative, I think the club would buy BV back from the BoI.