I think (and I'm knowledgeable on this one) that I'd regard Feka as fat, certainly not Sarge.

Look at your own players, at least Sarge did it in the open (not that clever), Wigan have two players who do this consistently, and sneekily, Coley and O'Loughlin.

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If anything i would say myler does more to win games on his own than tomkins, as myler has a poorer team around him. Tomkins is partnered with a good halfback in looloo, but myler gets stuck with smith who is poor imho.

seems very much like a pointless and sour topic tbh, tomkins demolished us from the back of great forward play i dare say had tomkins and coley not played we probably could have won that game,

Sam tomkins had a great game last night, not sure about 3 world class tries the 1st and 3rd could have been scored by anyone, the 2nd was pretty good though. I'm gunna have another look at the sarge tackle but it did look like he went down like a sack of spuds from a perfectly ok tackle from where i was stood. hope this isnt the start of diving creeping into our game.

to be fair there was nothing ok about it.

id be surprised if sarge plays against quins

Like i say i havent seen the replay yet but to me it just looked like a hard but fair challenge.

And they dont have it on the replay, hopefully be on boots and all.

It looked like cheap afters to me ....

Spot on.

A big shot with the shoulder...However Tomkins didn't have the ball.

Also, if a prop performaned a ''perfectly ok tackle'' on a halfback the size of Tomkins, how could Tomkins possibly be accused of diving?

Just managed to watch the replay on sky plus, it was late but only by a second or so, and there was nothing else wrong with it (not high, dangerous etc). Still not sure why tomkins has to make such a big deal of it there must have been 50 harder tackles in that game that players just sprung straight up from.

The tackle was late. A little to late to be an accident. It was a prop trying to rough up a half back, no intent to do any damage just trying to put him off his game.

As for Tomkins. I can see him getting sin binned for dissent a few more times, which should hopefully settle down the gobby streak in him.

Sam Tomkins is a very good player.