Still very extravagent to give that as a gift to a council owned property. Maybe he is getting a little Des on you....especialy with his outburst earlier this week. Next he will be trying to coach your team!! having said that...he probably could do a better job than Cullen.

No it's not extravagant. It is a direct investment in the clubs’ future. These new facilities will stand the club in good stead for years to come, and puts us way ahead of most clubs – including many in SL.

You just don’t get it do you?

Newest? The seats might be new but I doubt there's that much new about that stand.

As for the Fax v Widnes licence debate, I would actually agree with Fax fans casting a doubt on the long term future of the youngsters that are currently in the Widnes squad, but at the end of day the whole licence process is all about posturing and whos' got the biggest winkle. SO'C can say Widnes have the biggest support outside SL, internationally recognised sponsors, great ground, 8 homegrown youngsters in the 1st team. Our u18's have been competing against SL sides week in week out for the last x number of years. We now have the financial clout to compete in SL and I have a feeling that when the next round of accounts are produced, they will look impressive. We can also say that we will expand the game both locally into Runcorn and a bit further afield by marketing to the West (Merseyside) as well as to the South, where apart from the new Wrexham club, there is virtually no RL clubs until you hit Harlequins.

Apart from being able to compete at Championship level (without actually winning anything so far), is there anything Fax can say or do to trump any of that?

Now is it an investment or a gift? Make your mind up.

We've got a Dixy Chicken and Nigel Wood is the Cheif Exec of the RFL. Weave that one together.........

Read my earlier posts again.

He is investing in the clubs future and not necessarily looking for a return on that investment.

I just can’t dumb it down anymore for you than that. It seems pretty easy to understand, so what’s your problem?

That paragraph has been lifted from a thousand posts on the VT.

Internationally recongnised sponsors? Halton Solicitors? SOC? Stobarts? that wont have any baring on SL. When was the last game you played in the league with 8 home grown youngsters?

And as for the rest - your going to expand the game to Runcorn? Well thats you nailed on then..i have always had a feeling RL would do well there...Merseyside? Im sure Saints might want to do that..and are in a better position to do so....and the south? ok...you have the rest of the south of england to develop. Good luck with that.

As you have said in your post...its all about posturing..and the above is just that.

I have read your posts....




Now surely you dont want me to dumb it down for you even more do you?

Come on lads - Christmas cheer and all that.

Exactly -but when it comes to the application, how are Halifax going to pursuade the RFL that they will be a worthy addition to SL? I mean, probably the most important year before the licence applications go in and Fax go all quiet on youth development and sign a few over the hill players - no real way of dressing it up and making it sound good is there?

Are Fax really basing their whole licence application on building the best possible 1st team squad and hoping for the best?

What part of that quote is in anyway inconsistent with my very first post on this subject?