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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "What would you guys say if... Green is unveiled within a few days as the successful bidder as the front man for a group of investors. Business as usual at Odsal with no loss of players etc only now with cash to spare and sign new players for the middle eights.
Unfortunately HMRC wouldn't get the Vat back but with Green being the club's biggest creditor the charge would be removed meaning only a 6 point deduction for RFL as most of the debts would effectively have been paid off.
Pretty good that and it would preserve the championship's biggest draw. Which would be great news for all of us.'"
One key point that seems to be missing here is what about all those small busineses that have supported your club? (possibly 3 times in your pattern of one year in and one year out administration) They may not be as lucky surviving the debt they will have to write off by such action.
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| Quote: Living The Dream "One key point that seems to be missing here is what about all those small busineses that have supported your club? (possibly 3 times in your pattern of one year in and one year out administration) They may not be as lucky surviving the debt they will have to write off by such action.'"
Yes, I'd say, Bulls screw over their fans and suppliers again but are back in the game so who cares. Their iconic status must be preserved at all costs reagrdless of any standards their board may have.
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "What would you guys say if... Green is unveiled within a few days as the successful bidder as the front man for a group of investors. Business as usual at Odsal with no loss of players etc only now with cash to spare and sign new players for the middle eights.
Unfortunately HMRC wouldn't get the Vat back but with Green being the club's biggest creditor the charge would be removed meaning only a 6 point deduction for RFL as most of the debts would effectively have been paid off.
Pretty good that and it would preserve the championship's biggest draw. Which would be great news for all of us.'"
My take on this would be that the RFL should introduce a "fit and proper person's" test for any "new" investor in any club (including my own HRLFC) and then see how Mr Green stacks up. Any success on his part would be laughable, except for the fact that the taxpayer in the form of HMRC and any small business creditor would be screwed to assuage one man's vanity/greed
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Stop being pessimistic. I'd bet your mortgage on it - given that Halifax is an ex pit village in greater Manchester it's probably on about 50 quid a month but you get the idea.'"
Cannabis, heroin, cocaine? Maybe just Alpine lager in't Shoulder of Mutton? Maybe a mixture of the lot? Who knows?
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| why do you jokers care what goes on at the Bulls?
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| Quote: bowlingboy "why do you jokers care what goes on at the Bulls?'"
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| oh the irony....
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| strayed over as it was mentioned on the Bulls forum, plus like to know how Fax or getting on..
Live near Fax, work in Fax..
Some bitter old posters on here though, bit of friendly bantz fair enough, seems to go way deeper than that though.
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| nearly forgot,Wish you all the best for next year by the way!
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| Quote: bowlingboy "why do you jokers care what goes on at the Bulls?'"
I think it's because we care about RUGBY LEAGUE in general and what happens to/in the sport.
It does seem at times that bulls fans have no concept of reality and understand in the last few years their club have brought the game into disrepute.
Comments like that clown BillyMcboozer or whatever she called herself, saying that Halifax are a small Manchester mining town show not only his educational levels, the Pennines start at Todmorden not Shelf, but his commitment to the sport in general.
No disrespect intended.
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| I hope all clubs do well that is good for the game!
No one club is more important than another in my mind, we haven't had special treatment, infact some serious mistakes have been made by the RFL in putting some of the clowns that have been running the club in place..
Hopefully it gets sorted now..
A little less venom would be good, have a nice Christmas see you at Odsal next year hopefully for a damn good thrashing.
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| Quote: bowlingboy "I hope all clubs do well that is good for the game!
No one club is more important than another in my mind, we haven't had special treatment, infact some serious mistakes have been made by the RFL in putting some of the clowns that have been running the club in place..
Hopefully it gets sorted now..
A little less venom would be good, have a nice Christmas see you at Odsal next year hopefully for a damn good thrashing.'"
The RFL didn't buy Odsal then?
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| Quote: Hudd-Shay "The RFL didn't buy Odsal then?
Hmm. Interesting question. No right answer to it.
I would say no. The RFL took the Odsal leasehold to get some collateral for their secret (to all their other member clubs) loan which they had stupidly forwarded to the Bulls some 4months earlier. The stupid secret loan had been to try to give the Bulls time to sort themselves out but became more rope to hang themselves with (and who actually thought giving the Bulls board more cash could actually change anything???). When the RFL took the leasehold, that immediately tipped the Bulls into the crisis that the RFL had tried to stop 4months earlier, which I thought showed a complete lack of understanding from the RFL - or the other clubs had started to apply pressure to the RFL which forced them to change their position.
Ultimately, it entangled the RFL and the Bulls together, leaving us in the current position where the RFL have a massive conflict of interest whilst they are trying to manage the situation.
Ho hum, what tangled webs etc etc
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| Quote: bowlingboy "strayed over as it was mentioned on the Bulls forum, plus like to know how Fax or getting on..
Live near Fax, work in Fax..
Some bitter old posters on here though, bit of friendly bantz fair enough, seems to go way deeper than that though.'"
You mean macbully irrelevant told you he was having banter
Shame you came on here only to find out he's a massive bell end! Can't think why there's a lack of respect....
No disrespect intended
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| Quote: Highlander "Hmm. Interesting question. No right answer to it.
I would say no. The RFL took the Odsal leasehold to get some collateral for their secret (to all their other member clubs) loan which they had stupidly forwarded to the Bulls some 4months earlier. The stupid secret loan had been to try to give the Bulls time to sort themselves out
And after going into administration because of a serious cash flow problem,
They forced the new owner to forfeit a years central funding...
I'm not denying there has been ridiculous mismanagement previously,
But the Rfl have hand picked the clowns since the first admin, charged big rent in odsal, and took a years central funding from omar Khan.
I could have told you Green didn't have the money to run the club and Lamb was pencilled in by the administrator last time only for the goal posts to be moved at zero hour and the club handed to Green..
As I said earlier it's in every clubs best interests for a strong championship this could equal more TV money and a better deal for all...survival for us would be nice.
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